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  • Re: Has Theresa May shot herself in the foot

    Originally posted by Nawty View Post
    I do quite fancy another coalition.


    OK, so it won't be coalition but everything will need to be negotiated which is what I really meant.

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    • Re: Has Theresa May shot herself in the foot

      I think TM the PM has been working a flanker from day one and I can see another DC moment coming up.

      For someone who has been in politics as long as she has the whole election camp-pain has been exactly that from day one and, to my mind deliberately so. Stand by for yet another quick resignation or another night of the long knives and one more walks off with a PM's salary as a pension for life. Of course there's alwaya a book to follow - In this case, How to F U B A R and make a fortune for dummies. With a title like that, it should be a best seller.

      If it does come to a coalition, then I hope a large amount of common sense comes about as we will surely need for when the real crap starts. I'm not going to hold my breath as even a whale would stuggle.

      All supposition on my part, certainly, but it's a view I've held from the around the second week of the campaigne onwards.

      As for the EU, I'm sure there will damp underwear galore as they will all be pi**ing themselves laughing.

      If Stan and Oliver were still alive, their punch line would perfectly reflect this occasion... "Another fine mess you've got me into."
      It's not what inspires us that is important, it's where the journey takes us.

      Wally and his Collie with our Oly bits & bobs

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      • Re: Has Theresa May shot herself in the foot

        I think she has shot us all in the foot! This result solves nothing and helps nobody. In many ways it is the worst possible outcome, not least because it seriously undermines our negotiating position for Brexit. The Conservative campaign was negative throughout, concentrating on what the Bogey Man would do to us if we let him in, rather than focussing on what they could do for us. Their manifesto was lacklustre and, unlike Labour's, it wasn't even fully costed, plus they appeared to make policy up as they went along, only to change it a few days later - hardly the hallmark of a strong and stable government!

        Labour can only take minimal comfort, in that the result was far better (or less worse) than everyone predicted. It's a major disappointment for them that they will not get the opportunity to put their desperately needed policies and reforms into action.

        If there is a silver lining for Labour, it might be that they have narrowly avoided the poisoned chalice of government at a time when any party's economic performance is likely to be crippled by the looming disaster of Brexit. If the Tories remain in power it is likely that they will be unfairly saddled with the blame for the economic meltdown that Brexit will surely cause, rather like the Labour Party suffered in the wake of the Global Banking Collapse.

        However you look at it though, this morning we seem to have no winners, only losers and an increasing sense of doom as we head towards the Brexit negotiations in complete political disarray.

        What a reckless and foolish time to call a vanity election!
        John

        "A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there � even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau

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        • Re: Has Theresa May shot herself in the foot

          Agreed John. And it will be the people who have to pay for it, again.
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          • Re: Has Theresa May shot herself in the foot

            Originally posted by Wally View Post
            one more walks off with a PM's salary as a pension for life.
            Just what is required for some much-needed retail therapy to heal her wounds.

            Harold
            The body is willing but the mind is weak.

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            • Re: Has Theresa May shot herself in the foot

              Originally posted by Wally View Post
              I think TM the PM has been working a flanker from day one and I can see another DC moment coming up.

              For someone who has been in politics as long as she has the whole election camp-pain has been exactly that from day one and, to my mind deliberately so. Stand by for yet another quick resignation or another night of the long knives and one more walks off with a PM's salary as a pension for life. Of course there's alwaya a book to follow - In this case, How to F U B A R and make a fortune for dummies. With a title like that, it should be a best seller.

              If it does come to a coalition, then I hope a large amount of common sense comes about as we will surely need for when the real crap starts. I'm not going to hold my breath as even a whale would stuggle.

              All supposition on my part, certainly, but it's a view I've held from the around the second week of the campaigne onwards.

              As for the EU, I'm sure there will damp underwear galore as they will all be pi**ing themselves laughing.

              If Stan and Oliver were still alive, their punch line would perfectly reflect this occasion... "Another fine mess you've got me into."

              You old cynic, Wally - and I thought I was bad!

              Mind you, it has crossed my mind that Dianne Abbott may have been assigned a task, which she completed admirably!

              It could be that neither party wants to be holding Brexit when it explodes.
              John

              "A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there � even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau

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              • Re: Has Theresa May shot herself in the foot

                Originally posted by Zuiko View Post
                I think she has shot us all in the foot! This result solves nothing and helps nobody. In many ways it is the worst possible outcome, not least because it seriously undermines our negotiating position for Brexit. The Conservative campaign was negative throughout, concentrating on what the Bogey Man would do to us if we let him in, rather than focussing on what they could do for us. Their manifesto was lacklustre and, unlike Labour's, it wasn't even fully costed, plus they appeared to make policy up as they went along, only to change it a few days later - hardly the hallmark of a strong and stable government!

                Labour can only take minimal comfort, in that the result was far better (or less worse) than everyone predicted. It's a major disappointment for them that they will not get the opportunity to put their desperately needed policies and reforms into action.

                If there is a silver lining for Labour, it might be that they have narrowly avoided the poisoned chalice of government at a time when any party's economic performance is likely to be crippled by the looming disaster of Brexit. If the Tories remain in power it is likely that they will be unfairly saddled with the blame for the economic meltdown that Brexit will surely cause, rather like the Labour Party suffered in the wake of the Global Banking Collapse.

                However you look at it though, this morning we seem to have no winners, only losers and an increasing sense of doom as we head towards the Brexit negotiations in complete political disarray.

                What a reckless and foolish time to call a vanity election!
                I couldn't have expressed it better myself John. It's a mess. We should all remember the real villains of this piece though:

                - Farage for drumming up popular opinion so irrationally against the EU

                - Cameron for succumbing to Farage's pressures and calling a referendum

                - Boris, Gove and the other weasels for lying and conniving to the country during the referendum campaign

                The saddest moment of the night for me was seeing Nick Glegg lose his seat. I only wish that fate had fallen to Amber Rudd instead.

                I can only hope now that the key political leaders put as much of their policy differences aside as possible in order to do the best for the country. The Europeans couldn't give a ***** about us and the clock on article 50 is now ticking.
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                • Re: Has Theresa May shot herself in the foot

                  Our constituency, Conservative since 2005, has gone Labour, apparently to their surprise.

                  Harold
                  The body is willing but the mind is weak.

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                  • Re: Has Theresa May shot herself in the foot

                    Next time, vote for me.

                    Here's the deal:



                    1. Keep British Summer time through the winter. Putting the clocks back is a stupid idea and it makes everyone depressed. Productivity increases.

                    2. Cancel all the spending on our nuclear weapons program but keep it secret. We tell everyone we have ungraded to an extra big bang H bomb. That way it will still act as a deterrent, but we will have all that money available.

                    3. Use the money to fix the potholes and fund the NHS. Everyone is happy.


                    Simples.
                    Look, I'm an old man. I shouldn't be expected to put up with this.


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                    • Re: Has Theresa May shot herself in the foot

                      Originally posted by Zuiko View Post
                      You old cynic, Wally - and I thought I was bad!

                      Mind you, it has crossed my mind that Dianne Abbott may have been assigned a task, which she completed admirably!

                      It could be that neither party wants to be holding Brexit when it explodes.
                      One consolation - maybe - is that they ALL realise they now drink from the same poisoned well.

                      There has been 'some good news' in that two fishy people got stuffed. Just a pity that the wee bism didn't also lose her seat. Typically, even lafter losing over 1/3 of seats, she still crows on about 'victory' and with an attitude such as this, it bodes serious problems for the future.

                      Funnily enough, for some reason I had a tune rattling around my head from the Sound of Music? A subtle name change and you get the picture?
                      It's not what inspires us that is important, it's where the journey takes us.

                      Wally and his Collie with our Oly bits & bobs

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                      • Re: Has Theresa May shot herself in the foot

                        Originally posted by snaarman View Post
                        Next time, vote for me.

                        Here's the deal:



                        1. Keep British Summer time through the winter. Putting the clocks back is a stupid idea and it makes everyone depressed. Productivity increases.

                        2. Cancel all the spending on our nuclear weapons program but keep it secret. We tell everyone we have ungraded to an extra big bang H bomb. That way it will still act as a deterrent, but we will have all that money available.

                        3. Use the money to fix the potholes and fund the NHS. Everyone is happy.


                        Simples.

                        Other than #3, which needs working on... you've got my vote

                        The only flaw is that by the time you fix all the potholes there would be zilch left over for the NHS.

                        Sod the potholes, get cars off the road - 'bike it you'll like it' = cleaner air, a more healthy future population as kids would have to walk the hundred yards to school and back, less stress due to no traffic jams = less stress on the NHS.

                        As an added bonus, no cars parked on pavements means easier access for the disabled as pavements would be be used for their intended purpose, walking on.
                        It's not what inspires us that is important, it's where the journey takes us.

                        Wally and his Collie with our Oly bits & bobs

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                        • Re: Has Theresa May shot herself in the foot

                          EU Officials are said to have been recommended the use of TENA products at future meetings where the UK "government" is discussed...
                          Graham

                          We often repeat the mistakes we most enjoy...

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                          • Re: Has Theresa May shot herself in the foot

                            Originally posted by pdk42 View Post
                            I couldn't have expressed it better myself John. It's a mess. We should all remember the real villains of this piece though:

                            - Farage for drumming up popular opinion so irrationally against the EU

                            - Cameron for succumbing to Farage's pressures and calling a referendum

                            - Boris, Gove and the other weasels for lying and conniving to the country during the referendum campaign

                            The saddest moment of the night for me was seeing Nick Glegg lose his seat. I only wish that fate had fallen to Amber Rudd instead.

                            I can only hope now that the key political leaders put as much of their policy differences aside as possible in order to do the best for the country. The Europeans couldn't give a ***** about us and the clock on article 50 is now ticking.
                            In many ways - as an example - his loss may cause Brexit problems? How many politiians speak five languages? He would be handy to have on the team as many nuances could / will be lost in translation.

                            I look upon Brexit as another war with Europe and, as in a previous occasion, we really do need the best minds from wherever we can get them, to put aside party politics as no-one is going to acheive anything by squabbling amongst themselves.

                            If they, the politicians have't realised the situation that we really "ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER" then we really are up a steep sided **** creek with no paddles, life jackets and with heavy weight around our ankles.
                            It's not what inspires us that is important, it's where the journey takes us.

                            Wally and his Collie with our Oly bits & bobs

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                            • Re: Has Theresa May shot herself in the foot

                              Originally posted by Graham_of_Rainham View Post
                              EU Officials are said to have been recommended the use of TENA products at future meetings where the UK "government" is discussed...
                              They really must be strapped for cash.
                              It's not what inspires us that is important, it's where the journey takes us.

                              Wally and his Collie with our Oly bits & bobs

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                              • Re: Has Theresa May shot herself in the foot

                                Originally posted by snaarman View Post
                                fix the potholes and fund the NHS. Everyone is happy.
                                If you repair all potholes and uneven paving slabs, the A&E costs may plummet, thus removing the need for more NHS cash.

                                Harold
                                The body is willing but the mind is weak.

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