Has Theresa May shot herself in the foot

[Naughty Nigel]

Re: Has Theresa May shot herself in the foot

Being it on! I'm clean shaven and have shares in Gillette!

Shares! Now that is a dirty word. I am surprised at you Paul. Go and wash your mouth out.

To tell you the truth, I am planning to sell my Railtrack* and Northern Rock* shares to fund some new camera equipment. Perhaps something from a charity shop would suit my limited budget.

* Yet another reason that I distrust Labour.

[Zuiko]

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I thought Jeremy Corbyn gave an assured and competent performance on the Question Time special this evening. I cannot comment on Theresa May because I only turned the TV on as her turn was coming to the end, but she did at least turn up.

[Ricoh]

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Well, Theresa May did ok too, but she came under scrutiny concerning the 1% pay rises for nurses (no mention of doctor's pay rises, and no mention of agency funding) and of course the 'dementia tax'. She is of course delivering a hard message, that being money doesn't grow on trees. Unlike JC who is offering everything anyone could dream of, there seems to be no limit to the Labour Party's spending spree. But he holds up the little red book (written by the Marxist John McDonald, no doubt) and says it's fully funded... by the money tree. And would you or anyone entrust the security of the U.K. in his hands?

[Jim Ford]

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She is of course delivering a hard message, that being money doesn't grow on trees.

Yes it does - it's called the 'Quantitative Easing Tree'. The Tories garnered a big crop a few years ago, but my understanding is that the banks didn't release the money for businesses as was intended, but just sat on it - presumably to generate interest for themselves.

Jim

[Wally]

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Yes it does - it's called the 'Quantitative Easing Tree'. The Tories garnered a big crop a few years ago, but my understanding is that the banks didn't release the money for businesses as was intended, but just sat on it - presumably to generate interest for themselves.

Jim

Let's not forget who was behind the original problem that led to the problem of QE? They do say that history has a habit of repeating itself and, when it does, it becomes even more exppensive the second time around.

So far, J has promised everthing except to walk on water. If JC's plans get screwed, which I think is definitely on the cards, then so do we. Not a pleasant thought especially for those of us who are mere mortals.

RE: The Banks, personally, I would have left them to sort out their own mess. It didn't do Iceland - the real one - any harm when they did exactly that.

J Public took the brunt of *ankers greed / incompetence / theft / criminal activities, call it waht you will whilst the culprits continued to and still laugh all the way to work.

[Internaut]

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Me and my tinfoil hat have a couple of theories:

THEORY 1:

Yes, they really are throwing the election. They're chickening out of Brexit. Government is now a poison chalice. Better to lose an election than take the blame for a calamitous Brexit.

THEORY 2:

Now we're in real tinfoil hat territory. The money is reaserting itself. Money is the root of all evil. Because of how money affects our behaviour, collectively, the money almost has a mind of its own. The money doesn't like Brexit. This idea stems from what we've observed in places like Thailand and Brazil (both phoney democracies, compared to the UK). The money wants what the money wants!

Of course, this assumes the money wants Corbyn, which is where theory 2 breaks down a little.

THEORY 3:

It's just a bad campaign, and May has the personality of a brick. The simplest explanation is usuall right, right? The problem I have with theory 3 is quite simply we all know May isn't exactly charismatic. In fact, after Blair and Cameron, it seemed she was very popular off the back of being a bit bland.

[Jim Ford]

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Yes, they really are throwing the election. They're chickening out of Brexit. Government is now a poison chalice. Better to lose an election than take the blame for a calamitous Brexit.

Yes, I've seen several commentators on the 'net saying the same.

Jim

[Ricoh]

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We all remember the utter cock-up of the previous Labour government, and the note Liam Byrne left to the incoming chief secretary to the treasury, David Laws at the time.

This is how it was reported in the *left wing* Guardian newspaper:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/may/17/liam-byrne-note-successor

[Jim Ford]

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Let's not forget who was behind the original problem that led to the problem of QE?

What, American Banks and 'sub-prime' mortgages?

Jim

[Bikie John]

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Me and my tinfoil hat have a couple of theories:

<Snip theories 1 & 2 for brevity>

THEORY 3:

It's just a bad campaign, and May has the personality of a brick. The simplest explanation is usuall right, right? The problem I have with theory 3 is quite simply we all know May isn't exactly charismatic. In fact, after Blair and Cameron, it seemed she was very popular off the back of being a bit bland.

There is one thing that frightens me. When the Conservatives had their last leadership contest, May was by some distance the least appalling of the candidates. If they do less well in the election than expected the knives will be out for her, and goodness knows who they will pick to take her place.

John

[Ricoh]

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Wasn't it Gordon McBrown who sold our gold reserves at an all time low - only to give it away in tax benefits to encourage people not to work. If he'd hung on to the reserves we might be in a better position today.
I worry greatly at the prospect of JC and the Marxist J Mc engaging on a wildly profligate spending spree, and my children, and their children paying the interest rate on debt for the next 100+ years. Madness!

[Naughty Nigel]

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What, American Banks and 'sub-prime' mortgages?

Jim

But it didn't help that Gordon had already maxed out all of the countries credit cards long before that happened, and all in a time of comparative prosperity, inherited from the previous Tory government.

[Wally]

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What, American Banks and 'sub-prime' mortgages? Jim

Whoever coined the phrase 'we're all in it together' may well have been referring to the world-wide financial sector

Labour were in power at the time and a certain Chancer of the Exchequer didn't exactly help matters. In fact he hedged his bets on becoming PM, thereby ensuring himself of a PM's salary as a pension. In doing so, he passed the poisoned chalice onto A Darling.

As for some above comment, I too think they are throwing the election. When AC/DC jumped ship, we 'apparently' got the best of the rest to take his place? IF so, then it speaks volumes regards the others.

I think May's strategy is to get JC in the chair, then hope he can talk them to death. I don't think that will happen as I have the impression a deal has been done - certain 'dropped hints' point to that - and we'll be back 100 paces from where we originally started.

As I said earlier, history has a way of repeating itself.

My storm-proof purchases are looking like they're going to get well and trully tested... might even have to purchase a back-up set? To be sure, to be sure, as my Irish Grannie used to say.

[Naughty Nigel]

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Wasn't it Gordon McBrown who sold our gold reserves at an all time low - only to give it away in tax benefits to encourage people not to work. If he'd hung on to the reserves we might be in a better position today.
I worry greatly at the prospect of JC and the Marxist J Mc engaging on a wildly profligate spending spree, and my children, and their children paying the interest rate on debt for the next 100+ years. Madness!

It is very easy to be the 'good guy' when you are splashing other people's cash around, or in JC's case, cash he doesn't even have to spend.

That is something that every Labour government has done throughout my lifetime.

It is much more difficult and unpopular to reign in spending to a responsible level, which always falls to the Tories - hence their unpopularity with those who expect a free ride in life.

[Harold Gough]

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There is one thing that frightens me. When the Conservatives had their last leadership contest, May was by some distance the least appalling of the candidates. If they do less well in the election than expected the knives will be out for her, and goodness knows who they will pick to take her place.

John

Nigel Farage is available and flexible!

Harold