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Bought one of these to try and improve my landscape pictures, first impressions are quite good. Taken using a Polarizer which is included in the kit, also a 3 stop ND plus a 3 stop soft grad. The B&W may be a bit OTT for some but I think its OK. The colour is quite pleasing though. What do other members think? Regards, Ian W. PS. After viewing my post it clear I have made a cock up re size of images in post, advice and help would be much appreciated. IW.
Last edited by IPWheatley; 8 March 2018, 07:29 AM.
Reason: Image size.
Ian I just copied the code of your shot from the gallery and added it here.
The image size I usually use is 960 for the largest side and that seems to work reasonably well. You can go larger but I find 1200 is probably about the largest I'd go for.
Thank you for that Phil. It seems that I am missing something when I go to resize in Photoshop and keeping to the guideline of no larger then 512kb I finish up with the results shown in my post. Will now go and try your method, thanks again, IW
Ian I tend to use Lightroom these days. In LR on exporting the file I set it to no bigger than 500kb and 960 pixels wide for the forum for Flickr and FB I tend to use no bigger than 1000kb and 1200 pixels wide. I tend to have it also set at 300dpi as I did that for some printing a while ago and haven't changed it. Don't know if that makes a difference too? All the options come up as input boxes in the export window. I would think than Photoshop would do something similar but no doubt with a slightly different layout.
Ok you made me curious now Ian so I just opened up PS to have a look. On quick looking it seems like "save for web" is a simple option to use. I just tried a couple using an original jpg file one reduced to 960 pixels wide and quality 90% and one reduced to 1200 pixels wide at 80% and both were under the 512kb limit. Here they are. Nothing special as a shot but first thing I spotted.
Hi Phil, thanks once again for taking the time to help but I seem to be getting nowhere. All I can think of is my file sizes are too big to start with. Shooting raw only and editing then saving as a jpeg I'm still finishing up with a jpeg of anything around 20-25mb, that's before I reduce them even further to fit the forum requirements. Do you think in the future shooting raw plus jpeg then editing only the jpeg version for forum use would work, thanks again, your advice is always most welcome, regards, Ian W.
These shots were just jpgs for speed but I've edited raw files too. I think if you just reduce the quality a bit more then you should be able to get small enough files. The file I just used was originally 12.6Mb and reduced down to 444Kb at 960 wide and 90% quality. The 1200 wide image was 482Kb at 80% quality. I'd have thought at say 70% quality setting you would be able to get your files under the 512Kb forum limit and i'd have thought they would still look pretty high quality on the forum.
Just tried a larger file Ian originally 26.8Mb and reduced to 960 wide at 70% quality gave me this 482Kb file. I also just noticed that in the latest PS 2018 you have to go to export and then save for Web (legacy) to get the window that gives you the options to set the file sizes. That's Adobe changing things around for the sake of it in my view!
Ian - 25 Megabytes for a JPEG is absolutely massive!
I'm not sure what your workflow is. For what it's worth, here is mine, in both Lightroom and Photoshop. Apologies if this is stating the obvious.
There are two things to do - decide the pixel dimensions that you want, and then choose a quality setting to determine the size of the file. The pixel dimensions determine how big it will be on screen, the quality setting determines how much JPEG compression is applied. In general, more compression equals smaller file size and poorer quality.
Lightroom lets you do it all in one go. The Export dialogue box has all sorts of options for setting the size in pixels of the output image, as well as some control over how big the file will be. All I do for most things is set file size to 800 pixels long edge and target file size of 100K. This is a bit small and heavily comporessed by modern standards and for the forum it would be better to specify more pixels and a bigger file size - but you should still comfortably get a file 1200 pixels wide into 512K at very good quality.
In Photoshop, you have to do the two steps separately. First, choose the pixel dimensions you want and resize the file (under Image -> Image size...). At this point no compression is taking place, you are simply editing the file to get the right number of pixels. Then use the "Save for web" dialogue to save a new copy of the file (DO NOT save the resized version back to the original file - you have thrown three quarters of the pixels away!). Save for web has moved around quite a lot, it used to be under File -> Save for web, then became File -> Save for web and devices, and in the current version it is under File -> Export -> Save for Web (Legacy) as Phill says. It should give you a display showing your original and a preview of how it will look with the compression applied, and the resulting file size. You can play with the Quality slider and see how it affects both the look of your image and the resulting file size. Once you have tinkered with the options you press Save... and a dialogue box comes up so you can specify where you want to save it.
I hope this is clear. Apologies if I am labouring obvious points.
...........I hope this is clear. Apologies if I am labouring obvious points.John
A interesting discussion and I found this very clear. It's worth remembering that most 'ordinary' computer monitors are less than 1600 pixels across so, even if your image fills the screen, an image for screen viewing need not be larger than this.
I usually batch resize images, using software called 'VSO Resizer' (I think it may have been re-named, since), for screen viewing and sharing with friends.
For the web, I reduce down to 800x600 and use 'Save for Web' in Photoshop Elements. I find, for most images, that I can go down to 50% JPEG 'quality' for web-viewing. This may be very conservative but I hate slow-to-load web pages.
Incidentally, 'Save for Web' also removes EXIF data, which can save you from inadvertently revealing sensitive information, such as location of the photo.
Incidentally, 'Save for Web' also removes EXIF data, which can save you from inadvertently revealing sensitive information, such as location of the photo.
Presumably only if you have GPS enabled camera............
Many thanks to Phill D, John and Mike for their valuable advice and all you others who responded to my post. Going to have to modify my whole approach in respect of saving my images to this forum. In another site that I am a member of I have the luxury of a 5mb maximum file size for each image I post which makes life a lot easier. Thanks again, regards, Ian W.
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