Capture One Pro 21 released

[Greytop]

Not enough to entice me to upgrade from 20 at this point. I'll probably see what next year brings now

[Ross the fiddler]

But it was worthwhile for me to skip CO20, seeing as I couldn't afford (to convince my better half) to get an E-M1X or E-M1 III.

[Greytop]

Yes I can understand why you have upgraded Ross. I think however I will pass on this one and leave it to next year.

[Ross the fiddler]

If it doesn't give any particular advantage on 20 for you then every second year for upgrading allows for spending on something else.
If I didn't take this upgrade then I'm up for full price for when I do. Better discounts will come later, just before 22 comes.

[Ross the fiddler]

I got some FOMO (fear of missing out) with the 30% discount running out and so I updated. The only difference I have seen so far is a DeHaze slider and import seems a bit different. There must be other stuff I am missing!

There is a feature that has gone back on what I could do in CO12 & that was, click with the mouse on an adjustment, then adjust with the cursor keys. Now CO21 doesn't allow that or I can't find a setting that would allow it. Anybody any wiser on that?

[GRAHAMJ]

I have been looking for something to replace Adobe with and took advantage of the freebee when Olympus did the offer with the Mk3. I can happily say that I am now almost an Adobe free zone! The latest updates are to me very good.

[timboo]

Adobe in general is becoming pretty much retired for me including acrobat which is frankly sluggish and woeful. Lightroom is pretty much never used too. Other companies such as Capture one are getting better. Initially I found the transition challenging but I quite enjoy learning all of the features Capture One has to offer. Simple touches such as being able to print out all of the user defined keyboard shortcuts make a world of difference to me. Capture One I’d say are making a lot of ground on Lightroom now.

[timboo]

Just updated mine £139 ish isn’t a bad Easter offer. In fact perfect timing.

[Ross the fiddler]

$208.60 for me.

[griffljg]

One of the things that annoys me just a bit is that the only Olympus camera for which the ICC ProStandard is available is the E-M1 Mk II. Fortunately, I still have my E-M1 Mk II and have had the chance to try it out. It is brilliant. The colours now appear to be a lot more natural. I feel that I want to reach out through the "window" of my monitor and touch what is on the other side.

It also supports the Canon EOS 6D and I still have one of those. Now if only they will extend ProStandard support for the rest of the OM-D range. - My E-M1 Mk III has become my "go-to" camera.

[timboo]

I think they will do. I knew the pro standard profiles would be beneficial, any help with m43 is a massive bonus when it cones to dynamic range and colour reproduction. Bravo cap one

[Ross the fiddler]

One of the things that annoys me just a bit is that the only Olympus camera for which the ICC ProStandard is available is the E-M1 Mk II. Fortunately, I still have my E-M1 Mk II and have had the chance to try it out. It is brilliant. The colours now appear to be a lot more natural. I feel that I want to reach out through the "window" of my monitor and touch what is on the other side.

It also supports the Canon EOS 6D and I still have one of those. Now if only they will extend ProStandard support for the rest of the OM-D range. - My E-M1 Mk III has become my "go-to" camera.

I tried both 'E-M1 II - Generic' & 'Pro Standard' & here is a comparison of one photo. I tended to like the Generic for this, but then seeing it larger here, I'm not sure. What is your opinion?

E-M1 II - Generic




E-M1 II Pro Standard

[griffljg]

The treatment of the white colour shades appears to be a bit more gradual and natural on the Pro Standard version, but it is only very slight. The change between the white and the yellow in the bird's crest appears to be more defined in the Generic version. It appears to be more artificial in comparison with the Pro Standard version. Possibly that has something to do with the recovery of highlights...???

Two years ago I went to the Netherlands for the Easter period. I took my E-M1 Mk II with me. I took mainly city shots in Amsterdam and Utrecht with a few rural photos around Broek in Waterland. I processed them all using Capture One Pro using the Generic profile and then, when I updated to the latest version of Capture One Pro 21, I reprocessed them again. I didn't notice any difference. Then, when somebody pointed out that the latest version of COP had ProStandard support for the E-M1 Mk II, I reprocessed them all using ProStandard. I didn't adjust anything else. There weren't any huge changes, but the photos just appeared to be more natural and more like I remembered the scenes looking. Very subtle, but quite a big change on the photos as a whole.

[Ross the fiddler]

Thanks Larry. Yes, it was quite a bit of highlight recovery with this photo.

[drmarkf]

From examples I've seen, the biggest value of the ProStandard colour is in bright skies and foliage in landscape images, where it's a quite major benefit.
I'm pleased to see there is now an M1ii Pro Standard: that's one more Oly version than when I upgraded. I put in request cases for M5iii and M1iii versions, and if everyone else could do that we're more likely to get them quickly...

[Ross the fiddler]

One of the things that annoys me just a bit is that the only Olympus camera for which the ICC ProStandard is available is the E-M1 Mk II. Fortunately, I still have my E-M1 Mk II and have had the chance to try it out. It is brilliant. The colours now appear to be a lot more natural. I feel that I want to reach out through the "window" of my monitor and touch what is on the other side.

It also supports the Canon EOS 6D and I still have one of those. Now if only they will extend ProStandard support for the rest of the OM-D range. - My E-M1 Mk III has become my "go-to" camera.

I hadn't noticed immediately, but since CO21 came as a free bonus with the E-M1 III (initially), there still isn't a generic profile for it. I suppose the E-M1X generic profile would probably suit it best, although the E-M1 II ProStandard might be suitable, although it may need a little exposure shift perhaps & did they play with the colours at all in the E-M1 III as well?

[griffljg]

Olympus appear to have performed some modifications to the support work around the E-M1 III's sensor. I am happy with pushing ISO to 6400, which is something I would never have dared to do with the E-M1 II. I wonder whether the ProStandard colour profiles for either the E-M1X or E-M1 II would work satisfactorily on the E-M1 III.

Has anybody tried?

[griffljg]

I have also just noticed that there are two colour profiles for the E-M1. - "Generic" and "Generic V2". Has anybody tried both? How do they differ?

[Ross the fiddler]

Yes, that has been there in CO12 too.

[timboo]

The other day I used Cap 21 for the first time and tried to export an image, the program produces an error 1 code and doesn’t export regardless of the recipe. I have raised a ticket. Has anyone else had this issue?

[griffljg]

I had that problem at first and also when I convert an old session. For me, the solution was to deselect the "Untitled Recipe" and select your preferred recipe, which is "JPEG - Full Size, Highest Quality" in my case.

Another thing that I do when I start fiddling around with a new version of Capture One is to update the engine to the latest, which is "Capture One 20/21" in this case.

Please let us know if either of these work.

[timboo]

When you say engine do you mean just update the software or is this something specific?

[griffljg]

Under "Color", you should see "Base Characteristics". Under that, you should see "ICC Profile", "Curve" and "Engine". If you have recently upgraded the software, you should have the option to upgrade the engine. It is just a switch and so, if you want to upgrade the engine, select all files in that session before you click on "Upgrade".

[timboo]

Thanks I will give that a whirl

[timboo]

Hiya nothing there about update.

I have also tried switching off hardware acceleration and deleting the hidden file for open cl. Still no joy.

[timboo]

Thanks again jadn’t clocked the update will give it a try. At present I have cap one pro 20 and 21 installed. 20 is working fine. Lets see what the 21 update does.

Moment of truth installed and restarting......

Well that is strange I have found the answer, thankfully it’s not down to Capture one and compatibility it’s because my Avast Anti Virus quarantined the .dll file intelopencl64.dll on the previous install which is why I originally struggled to locate it and why opencl didn’t function. I have now permitted the dll file to bipass my virus scanner opposed to quarantine it and hey presto it works so I suppose although it wasn’t down to software I wouldn’t have known unless an update had been released which prompted me to question Avast flagging the file that i am now familiar with.

Cheers Griff your suggestion to update triggered that coming to light in Avast.

[griffljg]

Great to hear that you solved the problem. I suppose that's a lesson for all of us. - Anti virus systems can sometimes be a bit too aggressive. I am using Sophos on my Macs and, so far, it has been behaving itself.

[timboo]

To be fair thinking back it probably prompted me the first time I just saw the file and didn’t have a clue wat it was so told it to move it to the chest thinking nothing more of ot. Had I have exporeted am image at that time I may have twigged but Easter was a while back so never crossed my mind. Avast has always been very good to me over the past 20 years or so. Their marketing that keeps popping up wanting me to buy a load of add ons is the only irritating thing.

Cheers again for your help