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It now has official support for Big Sur. I updated to Capture One Pro 21 on both my MacMini (which is running Big Sur) and my old MacBook Pro (which is running Catalina) and haven't had any problems so far. I'll play around a bit later today:
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I'll probably take it up sometime next year (when my computer is sorted & not shutting down).Ross "I fiddle with violins (when I'm not fiddling with a camera)". My Flickr
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If you missed the upgrade to version 20, then this might be the time to upgrade. If not, then I wonder whether the 20 -> 21 upgrade is really worth it. Still, I upgraded via a pre-order, which gave me a bit of a discount. -
I stayed on 12 with the intention of waiting for 21, since the upgrade discount applies then too.
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I noticed that dehaze has been added to the new version. I also got excited for a minute as the camera calibration profiles were talked about (pro standard profiles in Capture one land) then clocked Olympus still doesn’t feature.
Update Capture One has a dedicated section where you can request your camera to be added to the pro standard profiles. Well worth doing.
Also editing on an iphone has been added. Long over due.
Nothing else jumps out at the moment as being ground breaking. £160 wont break the bank but I’d like to see more to convince me it is worth it from 20-21. Capture ones video also doesn’t make me change my mind. Maybe its geared to people using older versions or new users.
Incidentally does anyone else have an issue with 20 when drawing a mask and right mouse clicking on screen should cause the settings to come up. Occasionally mine refuses to stay there and disappears when u hover mouse over it making it impossible to change the setting. Only fix I have found is to reboot the program. Be good if that is fixed in 21.
One thing I have wanted since buying cap one pro 20 is the ultimate styles collection as I loved the Nik tools when I used Lightroom, in particular I miss the black and white options.Last edited by timboo; 20 December 2020, 10:54 PM.All the gear no ideaComment
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I'm planning to wait a bit. May skip this year's update as I'm more than happy with v20
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Capture one have created a request page so users request their cameras to be added to the pro standard list of supported cameras. Please can I ask Olympus users to follow the attached link on Capture one. As I have previously said the more people request it the more likely it will be added in a future release.
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Note I found using my iphone prevented me logging in to make comment but my PC works fine.All the gear no ideaComment
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drmarkf Are the "Pro colour profiles" that important? I guess I need to watch the video then.
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cheers all. Ross my take is that they are the equivalent to the camera calibration profiles in Lightroom. Personally I found that they make a significant difference to the RAW files and brought them to life from looking flat. They resemble the sparkle of the JPG’s by retain the cameras profiles such as ‘natural’ producing more accurate colours, sharpening shadows etc. There have been occasions where I have not been able to match the quality of the JPG’s without the profile whereas I found with the profiles I was able to edit and produce results a lot more satisfying than even the jpgs.
Its a feature I lost when I upgraded to my mkii as lightroom 5 didn’t support that camera and capture one has never supported the feature full stop until v21. I wouldn’t mind but as a forum we raised tickets about this previously yet Olympus still didn’t feature. Also Cap One was bundled with the E-M1 mkiii so surprised to not see it feature but then that may have purely been an Olympus promotion.
Anyway I digress I found that although 20 didn’t support the profiles that its RAW editing was better than Lightroom IMO. albeit I always yurn for the profiles to be introduced.
It’s the one feature that would convince me to upgrade to 21, as I just found it to be so useful in Lightroom world, made a noticeable difference to the final output and also reduced editing time somewhat. Portraits were the first type of shot, which made me realise.
I will have a dig around and see if I can find an old image to demonstrate the difference.
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Presumably one could always have generated a custom colour profile to adapt any camera's colours for CO and Lr, but the chances of getting it right as an amateur are probably small. I know one person in our 200-member camera club who has done that, and he's an imaging software engineer. Point made, I think!
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OK thanks to you both for that, so it may be what I will go for during next year then (when I have sorted my laptop or other computer options etc).
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For those with C21, you are aware of an update to 14.0.1?Comment
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Originally posted by pault View Post
As in the above?
Yeah is there something Olympus wise contained within it that I am not seeing?
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simple answer-NoComment
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I and a number of others on the CO and Affinity user forums had been getting quite reproducible crashes on merging panoramas etc in Affinity on machines running Windows 10 with nVidia 1660-series video cards and the latest nVidia Studio driver. Presumably a video card-related driver clash.
This latest CO release has fixed it (touch wood).
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Hi Ross here are 3 of the same image.
In no particular order 1 of the images is the RAW file with adobe standard profile, one is the out of camera JPG containing the correct profile and the other is the RAW exported with the correct profile. No other adjustments have been done by myself to any of the images. Note that the config profile within Lightroom 5 is 2012 so slightly older but natural was selected. See if you can tell which one is which. :-)
One is clearly more noticeable the other 2 less so. Having to reduce the quality so much to under 5mb has influenced the impact apologies. IF I get more time I may make some some basic exposure corrections and contrast as think the examples are not amplified enough. On my PC its more clear especially around skin tones and sharpness around the bald headLast edited by timboo; 22 December 2020, 03:33 PM.All the gear no ideaComment
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No worries Ross the first one was the JPG out of camera, which encompasses the correct colour profile without any human input. The second is the RAW file with adobe standard. The third is the RAW plus correct profile (image is closer to the JPG) None of the images have been edited just so that the difference can be seenLast edited by timboo; 22 December 2020, 03:31 PM. -
Correction you are right, poor terminology on my part it is Adobe standard, thanks for pointing that out. I’ve scanned over most of the thread and made the necessary alterations.
Point being adobe standard it is still flat and not aesthetically pleasing on the eye.
In terms of Capture One I’m not sure what their standard profile is called off the top of my head sure I have seen it though when I first used it trying to find the config profile. Their standard profile was better than adobe equivalent imo. Be interesting to see if cap one release the specific ones and make it even better again.
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Hi Ross here are a couple more first 1 is the RAW with adobe standard profile and other with the natural calibration profile only added. Its subtle but is very noticeable. I'd describe it as richer. It is also visible on my iphone when looking at the 2 thumbnails so a slightly better example than the portraits.
I’m keen to find some more examples and will post more over the next day or 2. All images will be cropped slightly just to focus on colours of interest.Last edited by timboo; 22 December 2020, 03:26 PM.All the gear no ideaComment
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Thanks for that. It's interesting with the first set that the OOC JPEG had more detail than the others then. -
The out of camera jpg already retains the camera calibration profile. Once adding the profile to the original RAW it brings it much closer to the JPG. Point being you are in a far better position when you can start at where the jpg pretty much is opposed to just a standard RAW config, you can then exceed what the jpg already achieved.
I deem the RAW standard profile as basement level with the jpg or RAW with the correct config profile at ground level then any human adjustments anything above and beyond ground level.Last edited by timboo; 22 December 2020, 03:30 PM. -
I'm still using Capture One 12 & only use it when I want more out of an image, otherwise I use Olympus Workspace, usually adding a bit of Clarity & maybe a small adjustment (I use it for sharpening smaller images before uploading for web use), but for higher contrast images then Capture One becomes necessary, although I haven't used any profiles with it though.
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Some good news it seems Capture One are finally recognising Olympus, on the back of our comments on their pro standard profile request page.
In their latest update the Olympus E-M1 mkii has been added to the pro standard profile list. I’d hope the mkiii and 1x to follow suit eventually.
I shall be updating my licence to 21 in the next few weeks on the back of this very positive news. Also good for Olympus users as a whole.
So happy my efforts were not in vein.Last edited by timboo; 13 March 2021, 07:57 AM.All the gear no ideaComment
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Thanks for posting that. I was a bit disappointed that support for the E-M1 Mk III and E-M1X wasn't included too. But at least I still have my E-M1 Mk II as a backup camera and so can play around a bit. Playing around with photos from some trips which I did back in 2019, I can say that the effect is that the colours appear to be more natural first up, but I am going to have to play around a lot more to get the full feeling for the effect of this addition.
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I finally upgraded to CO21 today, being the last day with a 30% discount, although I'm sure there will be more discounts & possibly greater before long, but just the basic option though. I don't see any value in paying all that money for styles etc.Ross "I fiddle with violins (when I'm not fiddling with a camera)". My Flickr
OM-1, E-M1 Mk II plus 100-400mm f5-6.3 IS, 7-14, 12-40 & 40-150 f2.8 Pro lenses, MC14 & 20.Comment
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I got some FOMO (fear of missing out) with the 30% discount running out and so I updated. The only difference I have seen so far is a DeHaze slider and import seems a bit different. There must be other stuff I am missing!Comment
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