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  • HELP! Creating a Linux laptop

    I have an old laptop sat doing nothing, that has Windows 8.

    Can anyone offer suggestions as to what is the best way to convert it into a Linux PC.

    I would prefer it to be a clean install onto a wiped hard drive.

    Thanks.
    Graham

    We often repeat the mistakes we most enjoy...

  • #2
    I did it a long time ago with a very slow XP laptop that a neighbour was chucking out. Formatted the hard drive, downloaded Ubuntu Linux using the regular PC and stuck it on a CD and it pretty much looked after itself. I never did much with it though as the laptop was so darned clunky and slow!

    If you have kit that is really redundant it's pretty much zero-risk to get stuck in and have a go.

    John

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    • #3
      Graham,

      Download the iso file for your preferred flavour of Linux onto a memory stick. Set the laptop to boot from usb and boot from the memory stick. Linux (most variants) will happily run from the memory stick which will allow you to play and make sure that you have what you want without going through the full install process. Once you’ve decided installing from the memory stick is fairly straight forward and It will clear the hard drive as it goes.

      Derek

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      • #4
        I did it with Mint and it was fine and fun to play with. I liked the GUI on Mint as it resembled Windows with which I was of course very familiar.

        I went with the Cinnamon edition. Follow Derek's suggestion for installation.
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        • #5
          Whilst you're playing, have you considered replacing the existing hard drive (HDD) with a solid state one (SSD) before you install Linux.
          An older machine should be speeded up considerably, particularly if you can add more memory.
          The current HDD can then be put in a caddy, and used for off site backups; or if you decide you don't like Linux, use the utility that comes with the solid state drive, and clone your old Win8 HDD back to the new SSD.
          After that, on the faster SSD, upgrade to Win 10 32 bit, which can still be done free.
          Once you've done the 8-10 upgrade, you can then do a clean install of W10 legitimately, and maybe even upgrade that to 64 bit.

          With a bit of thought and a big enough SSD, you could even have a dual boot system.
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          • #6
            +1 for what peak4 says. The move to an SSD will make a huge improvement. I think MJ224 did this a while ago.

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            • #7
              Unless you are a bit of a techi, it's not really that easy to maintain a Linux machine. It's not as easy as a windows in installing programs and drivers. You may need to beat it to get it to connect to say your printer. I tried and am still running a linux for storage. I have not gotten it to recognize the graphic card. It still running on the generic driver.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by blu-by-u View Post
                Unless you are a bit of a techi, it's not really that easy to maintain a Linux machine. It's not as easy as a windows in installing programs and drivers. You may need to beat it to get it to connect to say your printer. I tried and am still running a linux for storage. I have not gotten it to recognize the graphic card. It still running on the generic driver.
                What flavour of Linux are you using and what graphics card. If the graphics card is a very new model then Linux drivers may not be available.
                The most popular varieties of Linux are pretty much up to date in terms of graphics card support.though.

                In order of popularity, they are
                • Ubuntu. ...
                • Fedora. ...
                • Linux Mint. ...
                • openSUSE. ...
                • PCLinuxOS. ...
                • Debian. ...
                • Mandriva. ...
                • Sabayon/Gentoo.

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                • blu-by-u
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                  It's a very old Pentium system and I think it is a ATI. I am running Mint on it now. As I am not using it for anything but storage, it's ok. That onboard soundcard don't work either. So I am not really keen to hammer it anymore as it's serving it's purpose

                  I was going to install DOS 3.3 on it but the lack of NTFS support was the major deterrent.

              • #9
                Take a look at Deepin too. It’s a variant of Debian, but it’s simplified and very slick. The easiest Linux I’ve seen to date for non techies.
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                • #10
                  Should not have participated in this Linux thinggi..my linux machine died this morning. Now I am wondering what happened and where to start the resurrection dance.
                  * Henry
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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by blu-by-u View Post
                    Should not have participated in this Linux thinggi..my linux machine died this morning. Now I am wondering what happened and where to start the resurrection dance.
                    It has been a while since I did this but I think you have too boot it into “single user mode” aka “run level 1” which is a bit like Safe Mode in Windows. Then start examining logs under “/var/log” from the command line. There should be a key you press (function key “F-something” key!) at boot time that brings up a boot loader giving some options. This is assuming it is not so far gone that you can do that. Otherwise you are into looking at the BIOS diagnostics to see if there is something that will check the hard drive for errors - called SMART status or something like that. Good luck!
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                    • #12
                      Thanks. I think the HDD is the problem. It was in the boot sequence and it just kept going back into a restarting loop. Since there is not much in the boot drive, I may try another flavour of Linux. What would you suggest as a easy, small overhead flavour? I had Lime, want to try something else.

                      Wait, that one that loads with a feather on the screen, is that Lime or Mint?
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                      • #13
                        Thank you all for the advice, I appreciate it and will be putting it to good use when I get started on it.
                        Graham

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                        • blu-by-u
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                          You have to be brave to take that step. You may think it's DOS but it isn't the commands and the way it works are very different. But if you hammer it enough, you can find it is very interesting.

                        • Otto
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                          Linux is basically Unix so if you've ever used that in the past it should be a bit familiar. Having said that, I used Unix a fair bit in the 70s and early 80s but have forgotten most of it as I quickly found out when playing with my first Raspberry Pi!

                      • #14
                        Been following this thread with interest, especially since my Asus died on me a couple of weeks back. Motherboard failure. Had it less than four years and, as it cost around £600, I certainly do not think I got anywhere near full value out of it. After a bit of research I went for a Dell XPS 15. Nice bit of kit. Anyway, I also had an old Fuji in good order, running W7 and decided to convert it to Linux OS, I chose Mint Cinnamon as it is supposed to be fairly easy for a beginner to start on. Bit of a faff but got there in the end with the help of a couple of you tube tutorials. Chose not to do a dual boot, thus getting rid of W7. To say its transformed the old Fuji would be an understatement. It flies. Now to my question. As Adobe wont run on any Linux platform what is the best free alternative photo editor, Gimp, Darktable, Rawtherapee, or are there any others I should consider? Any advice would be most welcome. Its just a project I set myself for now but I would certainly like to become more familiar with Linux. Thanks. Regards all. Stay safe. Ian W.

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                        • #15
                          Originally posted by IPWheatley View Post
                          Been following this thread with interest, especially since my Asus died on me a couple of weeks back. Motherboard failure. Had it less than four years and, as it cost around £600, I certainly do not think I got anywhere near full value out of it. After a bit of research I went for a Dell XPS 15. Nice bit of kit. Anyway, I also had an old Fuji in good order, running W7 and decided to convert it to Linux OS, I chose Mint Cinnamon as it is supposed to be fairly easy for a beginner to start on. Bit of a faff but got there in the end with the help of a couple of you tube tutorials. Chose not to do a dual boot, thus getting rid of W7. To say its transformed the old Fuji would be an understatement. It flies. Now to my question. As Adobe wont run on any Linux platform what is the best free alternative photo editor, Gimp, Darktable, Rawtherapee, or are there any others I should consider? Any advice would be most welcome. Its just a project I set myself for now but I would certainly like to become more familiar with Linux. Thanks. Regards all. Stay safe. Ian W.
                          Think you have identified the top choices. There is digikam which is nearer to Lightroom in functionality. It's available here:




                          Choosing which one depends on what you want to do.

                          The nearest one in terms of functionality to PS is GIMP.

                          Rawtherapee is known for having a good RAW engine.

                          Hope this helps.

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