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  • Capping shutter slow

    Following an incidence where I was operating my E-M1 (Mk I) with a wired remote release on single shot and firing the shutter very rapidly to capture an unexpected event, I have found that now, whenever I fire off a single exposure the shutter noise has gone from 'Ta-Tip' to 'Za-zump' and with the lens removed I can actually see the capping shutter come down quite clearly whereas before it happened so fast it was just a quick blur. Also the screen goes blank for about 1/2 second whilst this is happening.
    Exposures remain correct thank goodness but the noise is annoying and the slight delay and screen blanking that has been added to each exposure even more so. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Is there a user cure or will the camera have to go back for repair? (Release lag time setting in the Menu is 'short'). I haven't tried a factory reset yet - I'm hoping someone knows the answer to this problem.

  • #2
    A couple of things worth checking...

    1) The EM1.1 doesn't support true EFCS, but if you set it to "0s" anti shock delay, it uses a trick which gets close. The normal sequence without 0s anti shock is (a) close bottom curtain (ends live view), (b) open bottom curtain (exposure starts), (c) close top curtain (exposure ends), (d) open top curtain (live view restarts). The trouble is that you get vibration (ringing) after step (b) caused by the deceleration of the bottom curtain as it hits the buffers. Olympus added a 20ms electronic delay after step (b) which allows time for the vibration to die down before exposure starts. Somewhat misleadingly, they called this 0s delay rather than 20ms which would have been more accurate. It's an effective technique though so you should use 0s anti shock delay all the time (unless 20ms delay would bother you). For those with later cameras (EM5.2, EM1.2 and later), EFCS is properly implemented and the shutter sequence is simplified using 0s anti shock delay and you get a true 0s, not 20ms.

    Unfortunately, Olympus implemented this feature using the same UI as longer "anti shock" delays (1/8s and longer). These delays are implemented before step (a) and are designed to reduce camera shake induced by the photographer. So, check if you have anti shock enabled for the shutter mode (diamond), but the anti shock delay set for something other than 0s.


    2) Release lag time short means that the camera is using an electromagnet to directly hold the bottom curtain open rather than a solenoid. This draws a bit more power in return for a faster release of the shutter. It does definitely change the sound of the shutter though - so see if the change you're hearing is caused by this.

    If it's neither of these, try a full reset is the camera.
    Paul
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    • blu-by-u
      blu-by-u commented
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      Where do you find such details. Are you working for Olympus as a developer?

  • #3
    Thanks for the comprehensive reply. As the problem started only after the event recorded above and no other changes were made to the camera in the meantime, it isn't a setting in the Menu - it makes no difference which of the two single shot mechanical shutter settngs I use and both L & H sequential settings work perfectly. Release delay time have been set to zero since Day 1.
    Unless someone else has a sugestion it looks like I shall have to note down all my settings (BIG mistake by Olympus not making it possible to download and reload all the settings from the E-M1 when they gave us so many possible combinations). and do a factory reset - but I'm not convinced this will cure the problem anyway - it's just a final step before having to return the camera for attention.
    I'll give it another couple of days in the hope someone has an easier solution.

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    • #4
      Not sure if it works with the EM1-1 but have you tried backing up your settings using the Olympus update software built into the Olympus Workspace app?

      You seem to be prepared to spend more time waiting for a magic solution from other users than it would take to simply write down your current settings. Why is that such a big deal? I really don't understand sorry.

      Write the settings down. Then do a factory Reset and then if it's fixed great 😀 if not then off to Olympus it must go😱.




      Last edited by wornish; 2 November 2020, 08:02 AM.

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      • #5
        Originally posted by wornish View Post
        Not sure if it works with the EM1-1 but have you tried backing up your settings using the Olympus update software built into the Olympus Workspace app?

        You seem to be prepared to spend more time waiting for a magic solution from other users than it would take to simply write down your current settings. Why is that such a big deal? I really don't understand sorry.

        Write the settings down. Then do a factory Reset and then if it's fixed great 😀 if not then off to Olympus it must go😱.



        That was the BIG mistake Olympus made when they released the EM1-1 - there is no means of recording the settings to a computer - you actually have to write each one down - and after a reset go through them all again one-by-one re-programming the camera - and have you actually seen just how many possible settings there are when all 4 of the 'Myset' options are in use??
        Besides, I'm lazy and the camera works OK apart from the fact every shot takes about 1 second to complete, so I'll just wait and see if someone has a 'magic' solution as you call it - after all, that's one of the reasons this forum exists.
        Also 'off to Olympus' is not quite the same from here as it might be in the UK. I'm still waiting for packages posted to me in England three weeks ago that have not arrived, so a round trip to Olympus under present circumstances might take two or more months.

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        • #6
          I personally find that I can set the camera up to my preferred settings in about 15-20 mins. I'd go for that big red button reset sooner rather than later !
          Paul
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          • #7
            I still can't see how to just save the camera (EM1 Mk3) settings with Workspace. The sequence goes through to the update bit, which would then save settings. But without the need for an update, I can't find the button to save the camera settings.

            I note that in the main Workspace menu, the Camera routine does have a "Save /Load" routine, is this the route? Am I saving my settings to the computer here??? What I don't want is to loose my personal settings to a default set in Workspace...

            Often confused...:-))
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          • #8
            Thanks Dave.I thought they had combined the Updater app with the Workspace programme.

            I can see the Updater App on several websites, but really only want it from the Olympus site. I will look further..:-)
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            • #9
              In the beginning of Oly digital cameras one always had to write down the settings either freeform or in spreadsheet tables designed by the helpful experts. It is only with the EM1 mk ii that one has had the luxury of storing and restoring the settings via a supplied program.
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              • #10
                Originally posted by MJ224 View Post
                Thanks Dave.I thought they had combined the Updater app with the Workspace programme.

                I can see the Updater App on several websites, but really only want it from the Olympus site. I will look further..:-)


                You can get access to the updater from the Oly Workspace program.

                It's under the Camera top menu drop down - Custom Settings - Save / Load

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                • #11
                  Just an update in case anyone else runs into this or a similar problem. I finaly gave in and recorded ALL my settings to a spreadsheet - with the 4 Myset options the total number of potential variables came to 274 😫 and it took quite a few hours to record it all 😪.
                  But at last it was done and I could safely try a reset. I tried the Basic one first - and it worked!! 🤩 🤩🤩 the shutter is back to normal operation again.
                  I still have to go through the Menu (again! 😫) to make sure it hasn't changed anything away from my 'standard' settings, but it is a huge relief to know it will not have to be sent for repair 🤗.

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                  • #12
                    Thinking about this a little later it was obvious that the problem could not be cured by a simple Basic Reset if it had been a firmware fault, so I went through the Menu again and spotted that the setting in the recorded Menu spreadsheet for Noise Reduction was showing 'ON' whereas after the Reset it was now showing 'AUTO' - and the penny dropped!!
                    My frantic efforts to capture the unexpected event with repeated single pressing of the wired remote release must have caused some sort of glich in the camera and switched Noise Reduction from the original 'Auto' setting to 'On' - and of course this meant EVERY shot was receiving both the normal and the noise reduction exposure, causing the capping shutter to remain in position twice as long as usual.
                    We live and learn!! ☺☺

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                    • MikeOxon
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                      Pleased you found the cause.
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