A variation on the lockup theme - MF and 12-40 Pro lens

[TonyR]

Re: A variation on the lockup theme - MF and 12-40 Pro lens

It's after midnight here but I will try some prompts. First of all, have you used the MF button on the top left to change focus options (hold button & rotate rear wheel)? 2nd, have you been into the Menus to change the function of the buttons? I'll come back with user manual page numbers if I'm still awake.

I have used the button above the On/Off switch to change focus mode. Press (not hold) - rotate rear dial - half-press shutter to close AF selection screen. Is this what you mean?

I have customised buttons on the E-M1 to change which function is on which button.

[Ross the fiddler]

Re: A variation on the lockup theme - MF and 12-40 Pro lens

I have used the button above the On/Off switch to change focus mode. Press (not hold) - rotate rear dial - half-press shutter to close AF selection screen. Is this what you mean?

I have customised buttons on the E-M1 to change which function is on which button.

OK, & when the Fn# button has MF set in it & you are presently using, say S-AF, pressing that Fn# button it should then toggle between MF & S-AF (assuming it is a lens that changes from the camera body control & not a snap ring).

[Grumpy Hec]

Re: A variation on the lockup theme - MF and 12-40 Pro lens

OK, & when the Fn# button has MF set in it & you are presently using, say S-AF, pressing that Fn# button it should then toggle between MF & S-AF (assuming it is a lens that changes from the camera body control & not a snap ring).

Yep - that's how I do it. The push/pull focus ring can confuse the issue as is well documented in this thread but it's not a problem once you are aware of that as I now am .

There are many ways to use the control flexibility on the EM-1 which can certainly cause confusion at times. However that flexibility is one of the camera's strengths and worth taking the time to get to know. Of course some people may prefer to leave everything set at the default settings which is equally valid if that's what works for them.

Hec

[TonyR]

Re: A variation on the lockup theme - MF and 12-40 Pro lens

OK, & when the Fn# button has MF set in it ...

Now I know I'm being bl**dy thick but how do I set MF to a Fn button?

Perhaps telling me what sequence of buttons to press is the only way...

[Ross the fiddler]

Re: A variation on the lockup theme - MF and 12-40 Pro lens

Now I know I'm being bl**dy thick but how do I set MF to a Fn button?

Perhaps telling me what sequence of buttons to press is the only way...

OK, I'm wide awake with the camera in front of me & I'll explain each step. Sorry if I might over-explain.

First enter Menu mode & go to 'Gears' **, go across & down to *B - Button/Dial/Lever to enter that menu option & at the top of that list is Button Function. Enter it & then go down to the button you want to program. Lets say Fn2 & go right again & then you have a box which the options will cycle through when using the rear wheel or up/down arrow keys (buttons) to change it & once it is at that desired Fn, that is MF, press [OK] to store it & then half press the shutter button to quickly exit the Menu system & be ready to fire with the Fn2 button toggling between MF & the last focus option selected (e.g. S-AF).

[Ross the fiddler]

Re: A variation on the lockup theme - MF and 12-40 Pro lens

I have used the button above the On/Off switch to change focus mode. Press (not hold) - rotate rear dial - half-press shutter to close AF selection screen. Is this what you mean?

Yes, that is right. I was thinking of what was necessary with Fn2 being set for Multifunction & it has to be held down while rotating the rear wheel to change between the 4 Functions.

[TonyR]

Re: A variation on the lockup theme - MF and 12-40 Pro lens

OK, I'm wide awake with the camera in front of me & I'll explain each step. Sorry if I might over-explain.

First enter Menu mode & go to 'Gears' **, go across & down to *B - Button/Dial/Lever to enter that menu option & at the top of that list is Button Function. Enter it & then go down to the button you want to program. Lets say Fn2 & go right again & then you have a box which the options will cycle through when using the rear wheel or up/down arrow keys (buttons) to change it & once it is at that desired Fn, that is MF, press [OK] to store it & then half press the shutter button to quickly exit the Menu system & be ready to fire with the Fn2 button toggling between MF & the last focus option selected (e.g. S-AF).

Ross,

Many thanks for taking the time to do that! That is, of course, the procedure that I am familiar with and I have used it extensively to cutomise my E-M1.

And I now know that I am not going mad! However, for some reason, when I scroll through the options to assign to the function button, I don't have one for manual focus. Not sure why that it. My full list is:

• AEL/AFL
• Preview
• One Touch WB
• AF Area Select
• [...]Home
• RAW/Jpeg
• Test Picture
• Myset1-4
• Under water/macro
• Exposure
• Live Guide
• Digital Teleconverter
• Magnify
• HDR
• BKT
• ISO
• WB
• Multi Function
• Peaking
• Level Display
• Off

Perhaps I have got some other setting set that means I don't get the MF option. I have 4/3 lens on the camera at the moment.

[TonyR]

Re: A variation on the lockup theme - MF and 12-40 Pro lens

I can see that the option for MF is in the manual on page 100 along with lots of others. Still not sure why I'm not seeing them all.

[Ross the fiddler]

Re: A variation on the lockup theme - MF and 12-40 Pro lens

Ross,

Many thanks for taking the time to do that! That is, of course, the procedure that I am familiar with and I have used it extensively to cutomise my E-M1.

And I now know that I am not going mad! However, for some reason, when I scroll through the options to assign to the function button, I don't have one for manual focus. Not sure why that it. My full list is:

• AEL/AFL
• Preview
• One Touch WB
• AF Area Select
• [...]Home
• RAW/Jpeg
• Test Picture
• Myset1-4
• Under water/macro
• Exposure
• Live Guide
• Digital Teleconverter
• Magnify
• HDR
• BKT
• ISO
• WB
• Multi Function
• Peaking
• Level Display
• Off

Perhaps I have got some other setting set that means I don't get the MF option. I have 4/3 lens on the camera at the moment.

Sorry if my reply might have been a little patronising, but I wasn't sure if a step may have been overlooked. Perhaps you do have some other setting that has removed it because I have it on mine (& tested it) & the lens attached at the time was the (4/3's) ZD14-54 II lens. What lens are you using on it & what firmware is in your E-M1?

[TonyR]

Re: A variation on the lockup theme - MF and 12-40 Pro lens

No, your tone was fine. Clarity was what I needed!

My firmware is 1.4 and I have the 50-200 SWD attached. Quite a mystery.

I am not too concerned because I like the way I have the E-M1 set up. I have S-AF/C-AF set up on the lever, AF Home set to 9-area on one of the two buttons by the lens, AF Area select on F2 and AF Zoom (Multi Function) on F1. I can change from small S-AF for static subjects to 9-area C-AF for BIF with a couple of clicks.

However, I do like to understand my equipment which was what caught my eye about the OP's post. I will keep digging to see if I can get to the bottom of it. I could probably find out quickest by doing a full reset and then start put the settings back one by one but I don't really want to do that.

Thanks for your help.

[Ross the fiddler]

Re: A variation on the lockup theme - MF and 12-40 Pro lens

No, your tone was fine. Clarity was what I needed!

My firmware is 1.4 and I have the 50-200 SWD attached. Quite a mystery.

I am not too concerned because I like the way I have the E-M1 set up. I have S-AF/C-AF set up on the lever, AF Home set to 9-area on one of the two buttons by the lens, AF Area select on F2 and AF Zoom (Multi Function) on F1. I can change from small S-AF for static subjects to 9-area C-AF for BIF with a couple of clicks.

However, I do like to understand my equipment which was what caught my eye about the OP's post. I will keep digging to see if I can get to the bottom of it. I could probably find out quickest by doing a full reset and then start put the settings back one by one but I don't really want to do that.

Thanks for your help.

Yes it is odd. I also checked if doubling up on two buttons would cause it, but that didn't seem to be case. I wonder if it's the lever option that is causing it? You could check the SCP bottom right box for all programmed buttons, cycling through them all with the front wheel & see if that might show up a clue. I'm on my iPad in bed & I hope you've found the reason before I wake again.

[Bengeo]

Re: A variation on the lockup theme - MF and 12-40 Pro lens

Mine is the same, greyed out, I think it is to do with the setting of the lever options. I have that set to toggle between S-AF and C-AF. This is where I find the Olympus menus and manuals frustrating!

Andy

[TonyR]

Re: A variation on the lockup theme - MF and 12-40 Pro lens

Mine is the same, greyed out, I think it is to do with the setting of the lever options. I have that set to toggle between S-AF and C-AF. This is where I find the Olympus menus and manuals frustrating!

Andy

Ah yes! That's it. If you set the lever option to other than mode 5 (switch AF mode) then you get the option to put MF onto a function button. It doesn't make any sense to me why they would do that but then it is Olympus...

[StephenL]

Re: A variation on the lockup theme - MF and 12-40 Pro lens

The way I ran it for a while was to have the lever set to option 5 and the AEL/AFL button set to AFL. That way, in manual focus with the lever the AFL button did back-button focus. I had AEL set to another button.