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  • Dearth of OM1 HHHR info.

    I'm looking for starter info, both taking and PP of HHHR shots, to see what, if anything, it could do for birds, perched....not BIF obviously.

    There are a couple of images here, page 7...https://www.mu-43.com/threads/om-sys...7#post-1558873

    It seems taking is the easy bit, the PP is another matter.

    I've created a TIF from the ORI file in OM1 > PSE22 > Sharpen A1.......but it doesn't look any different to my normal files.

    Any offers...... links, tutorials etc.

    TIA

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    I found the same, OMDS don’t seem to have any good written articles I can find on using it and how to process the files.

    This DPR post is the best I have found, it predates the OM-1 but has some good info and talks about PP on the files:


    Also this recent video from this OMDS US ambassador chap on OM-1 high res modes, he mainly talks about how to use it. At the end his PP advice is to apply a lot of sharpening.



    What I do is process the ORF high res file (the biggest Mb sized one!) in OM Workspace then export to a TIFF then further process in my CaptureOnePro PP software. I can just put it in CaptureOne straight off but the results are not as good as the OM WS TIFF route, especially for moon shots. You can try apply sharpening in OM WS too.

    The main benefit I found over standard resolution is the improved dynamic range, noise improvement and the ability to crop it down. You can also bump the ISO right up in the hand held mode and since it combines 12 shots (compared to 16 on the Em1Mk3) you get some noise improvement.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dave in Wales View Post
      I've created a TIF from the ORI file in OM1 > PSE22 > Sharpen A1.......but it doesn't look any different to my normal files.
      Dave - just re-read this. The high res file is the ORF file, you need to process that one. The ORI file that comes out is the first standard resolution shot from all the ones it combines for high res..which is why it looks the same?
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      • Dave in Wales
        Dave in Wales commented
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        Dahhhhhh.....proves my point.........Dearth of OM1 HHHR info.

        Thank you.

      • RedRobin
        RedRobin commented
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        Aha, I did wonder why the ORI file looked no different and so I post-processed the JPEG as best I could but wasn't that impressed.

    • #4
      Not much help for the OM1 at present, but I find that DxO Deep Prime on HHHR EM1.3 raws does a decent job of sharpening them (plus the other things that DxO does). Unlike regular ORFs though, the HHHR ORFs, even after processing in DxO, still need sharpening once back in LR.
      Paul
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      • Dave in Wales
        Dave in Wales commented
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        DxO not open for OM1 raw yet.

      • pdk42
        pdk42 commented
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        That's why I prefaced my post with "Not much help for the OM1 at present, ..."

    • #5
      Originally posted by BDennis View Post
      I found the same,

      What I do is process the ORF high res file (the biggest Mb sized one!) in OM Workspace then export to a TIFF then further process in my CaptureOnePro PP software. I can just put it in CaptureOne straight off but the results are not as good as the OM WS TIFF route, especially for moon shots. You can try apply sharpening in OM WS too.
      e improvement.
      This is something I advised to do some time ago to stop the RAW file from being 'got-at' by any other system prior to PP.

      I have been, lately, loading the RAW straight into PSE22 with no apparent difference.

      Why create a huge TIFF file for no reason.

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      • #6
        I'm more than a little suspicious of OW's export to TIFF. If you load a TIFF and a JPEG from OW into LR, you'll find that the ability to push/pull the files is identical. Given that JPEGs are by definition 8-bit, this is a surprising result. Personally, I think that LR does a good job on Olympus raws so I don't have any desire to use OW (which is just as well given how slow it is and the awfulness of its UI).
        Paul
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        • MJ224
          MJ224 commented
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          On my limited experience of OM-1 RAW's, I find that Lightroom followed by Topaz deNoise does a reasonable job, not perfect, but good enough form the computer screen...

        • RedRobin
          RedRobin commented
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          pdk42, although I use Capture One 22 rather than Lightroom, I agree - OW leaves a lot to be desired. Btw, if you Move rather than Export an ORF file from OW as a TIFF, you can preserve it as the original RAW file. But this doesn't make OW more attractive.

      • #7
        Originally posted by BDennis View Post
        What I do is process the ORF high res file (the biggest Mb sized one!) in OM Workspace then export to a TIFF then further process in my CaptureOnePro PP software. I can just put it in CaptureOne straight off but the results are not as good as the OM WS TIFF route, especially for moon shots. You can try apply sharpening in OM WS too.
        .... You seem to be saying that OM Workspace does a better job of converting a RAW file than Capture One 22 (C1) does < Is this so? I can see that this might be so when Exporting from OM WS as a TIFF but you can instead Move the original RAW file to C1 which fully supports ORF files.

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        • #8
          Originally posted by RedRobin View Post

          .... You seem to be saying that OM Workspace does a better job of converting a RAW file than Capture One 22 (C1) does < Is this so? I can see that this might be so when Exporting from OM WS as a TIFF but you can instead Move the original RAW file to C1 which fully supports ORF files.
          Hi Robin

          I am finding I get better results from the HHHR ORF file if I export a TIFF from OM Workspace then further process that in Capture One Pro. I plug in the OM-1 and use the "USB Raw" mode for this as it is much quicker. I am not really sure of the reason for OM WS being better for this - as to why the C1 software and others don't do such a good job on the HHHR file as OM Workspace. I saw a recommendation to do this on the DPR forum. I'm specifically finding this is the case for HHHR Moon shots I have made. If it is of interest, I just made a post comparing the processing of the files from a HHHR Moon shot here: https://www.e-group.uk.net/forum/for...ng-comparisons

          If I just "move" the ORF file into C1 from OM Workspace (because of using that on the Mac to preview and cull files due to the lack of MacOS support for OM-1 files), I do not get the benefit of the OM Workspace HHHR process with a better result. In my case, I just keep all the files in a dated folder on my Mac drives so no moving is required. I can edit the file in OM WS and export a TIFF file alongside it or add the file to my Capture One Catalog using the "add" method during import that just references the file in that location (instead of the copy into C1 catalog import mode, which I gave up on due to getting unmanageable huge C1 Catalogs!).

          Hope that explains it..

          Bill
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