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  • Does "Record Mode" determine the quality of RAW files?

    Unless we are missing something there appears to be a bewildering anomaly between Sandra's new XZ2 and mine.

    In Record Mode hers has an LF jpeg+RAW setting whereas the highest resolution on mine is apparently LN jpeg+RAW setting.

    We have searched the layered menus from stem to stern (and even resorted to reading the User's Manual! ) but found no answer.

    Question:
    So, before I contact Olympus Australia Support on this issue can you tell me if the +RAW file associated with any of the Record Mode settings are invariably of the same quality?
    If so, then presumably any .tif file produced by RAW development would be of the highest quality the camera can deliver, am I right?

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    Re: Does "Record Mode" determine the quality of RAW files?

    Pass; can I have a history question instead?
    Ed

    Live life in the slow lane.

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      Re: Does "Record Mode" determine the quality of RAW files?

      Raw is Raw, so unaffected by JPG settings. If the XZ2 is like the E-M5, look in menu Cog G Pixel (diamond symbol) / Color / WB, go down to Pixel Set. This allows you to enable different sizes and compressions, including LSF (large superfine) on the E-M5, which is off by default, as LF is fine for most things.

      Once those are set, you should be able to choose the JPG setting you want from the Super Control Panel if it has that.

      Bruce
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        Re: Does "Record Mode" determine the quality of RAW files?

        Hi Mark, I suspect there must be an option buried deep in the menus to enable/disable LF JPEGs. The Pens and OM-D ranges certainly hide the ability to record LSF JPEGs. But whichever quality/compression setting you set for JPEG it will not affect the quality of the raw file.
        John

        "A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there � even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau

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          Re: Does "Record Mode" determine the quality of RAW files?

          Originally posted by pandora View Post
          Unless we are missing something there appears to be a bewildering anomaly between Sandra's new XZ2 and mine.

          In Record Mode hers has an LF jpeg+RAW setting whereas the highest resolution on mine is apparently LN jpeg+RAW setting.

          We have searched the layered menus from stem to stern (and even resorted to reading the User's Manual! ) but found no answer.

          Question:
          So, before I contact Olympus Australia Support on this issue can you tell me if the +RAW file associated with any of the Record Mode settings are invariably of the same quality?
          If so, then presumably any .tif file produced by RAW development would be of the highest quality the camera can deliver, am I right?
          You are correct Mark.
          The raw file is always the raw data from the sensor and is not itself affected by any in camera processing settings and gives you the best data for raw development. When you record JPEG +raw only the JPEG is affected by the camera settings. You should note however that when you do the raw development in Viewer 3 (and some other software) the default settings will give you initially the same result as the camera JPEG settings but you then have the ability to alter these to get the result you are looking for.

          The LF/LN setting refers to the compression ratio of the JPEGs produced by the camera and are selected from the Custom Menu "cogs" G. Page 90 of the manual refers.

          Regards.
          Peter

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            Re: Does "Record Mode" determine the quality of RAW files?

            Originally posted by Wee man View Post
            Pass; can I have a history question instead?
            Who was Danny Farrell and what became of him?

            Originally posted by Bruce Clarke View Post
            Raw is Raw, so unaffected by JPG settings. If the XZ2 is like the E-M5, look in menu Cog G Pixel (diamond symbol) / Color / WB, go down to Pixel Set. This allows you to enable different sizes and compressions, including LSF (large superfine) on the E-M5, which is off by default, as LF is fine for most things. Once those are set, you should be able to choose the JPG setting you want from the Super Control Panel if it has that. Bruce
            Thank you Bruce, you were right on the money. By following your leads I found the XZ2's LF settings and have selected it. The XZ2 has no LSF settings and no super control panel like the E-3. Its control panel is differently formatted, similar to the PENS but more convoluted.
            Originally posted by Zuiko View Post
            Hi Mark, I suspect there must be an option buried deep in the menus to enable/disable LF JPEGs. The Pens and OM-D ranges certainly hide the ability to record LSF JPEGs. But whichever quality/compression setting you set for JPEG it will not affect the quality of the raw file.
            Thanks for confirming it John, that was my understanding and most reassuring.
            Originally posted by PeterBirder View Post
            You are correct Mark.
            The raw file is always the raw data from the sensor and is not itself affected by any in camera processing settings and gives you the best data for raw development. When you record JPEG +raw only the JPEG is affected by the camera settings. You should note however that when you do the raw development in Viewer 3 (and some other software) the default settings will give you initially the same result as the camera JPEG settings but you then have the ability to alter these to get the result you are looking for.
            The LF/LN setting refers to the compression ratio of the JPEGs produced by the camera and are selected from the Custom Menu "cogs" G. Page 90 of the manual refers.Regards.
            Thanks Peter.
            Both XZ's came bundled with Viewer2.
            The XZ2's Viewer2 is apparently an updated version of the XZ1's, which won't open XZ2 files.

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              Re: Does "Record Mode" determine the quality of RAW files?

              Just this came to mind ;
              Originally posted by Zuiko View Post
              The Pens and OM-D ranges certainly hide the ability to record LSF JPEGs. But whichever quality/compression setting you set for JPEG it will not affect the quality of the raw file.
              Need special bonus level to unlock the golden LSF mode!

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                Ed

                Live life in the slow lane.

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                • #9
                  Re: Does "Record Mode" determine the quality of RAW files?

                  Yes Ed, one and the same!

                  Love that song too btw - Being half Irish there's a lot in it that I can relate to !

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                    Re: Does "Record Mode" determine the quality of RAW files?

                    I have a wonderful 5xCD set of Irish ballads, Danny Farrell is among my favourites.

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                      Re: Does "Record Mode" determine the quality of RAW files?

                      Play on.

                      p.s. do I get any points?
                      Ed

                      Live life in the slow lane.

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                        Re: Does "Record Mode" determine the quality of RAW files?

                        Only if you can tell me where I can find Riley's daughter.

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