Trams and trolleybuses 1

[KeithL]

A visit to Carlton Colville transport museum last Sunday. Beautiful day (or, "bootiful" being Norfolk...). Some images of the trams and trolleybuses there.

Tram 159:
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Turning the pick-up:
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Don't get off until the car stops!
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Trolleybus:
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Up the stairs:
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Well, those are the first set. Hope you enjoy. Thanks for looking.
Keith

[brian1208]

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a great selection of snapshots from the past, sometimes you don't need to see the entire subject to appreciate it

[OM USer]

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Never been but looks like an amazing place.

[Jim Ford]

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I remember trolleybuses had ferocious acceleration from a standstill!

With an 'ordinary' bus you could grab the platform handle as the bus pulled away, and jump on the platform. If you tried to do that with a trolleybus it would nearly pull your arm out of your shoulder socket!

Jim

[Beagletorque]

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Great set Keith, but well before my time! It's a good job you don't wear the trousers in your house though...

[KeithL]

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Great set Keith, but well before my time! It's a good job you don't wear the trousers in your house though...

She is a friend of ours.....and rather older than us, too..

Well before your time - you don't know what you missed! As a child I loved going by tram. Scary in the dark, though, with all the green flashes when the tram went over a junction and rocked fore-and-aft. Violently! And all those clangs and clanks. A conductor with a row of tear-off tickets that he punched in a small machine. I think I only went on a trolleybus once though. My parents lived in Coventry and my grandparents in Brum, so we went by Midland Red (hte X68 service) to the Greenway and then got a tram to my grandparents, who lived about 100 yds from the terminus in Bordesley Green.

[Beagletorque]

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Sorry, it was difficult to tell from that angle!

[KeithL]

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Sorry, it was difficult to tell from that angle!

Let's just say that I haven't shown her that shot........

[PeterBirder]

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A great set of detail shots and I look forward to seeing the next instalment.
I haven't been to the museum for many years but pass nearby regularly when visiting my Son and family at Hopton. Must take the grandchildren there.

Thanks for sharing.

[PeterBirder]

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I remember trolleybuses had ferocious acceleration from a standstill!

With an 'ordinary' bus you could grab the platform handle as the bus pulled away, and jump on the platform. If you tried to do that with a trolleybus it would nearly pull your arm out of your shoulder socket!

Jim

Yes. A major characteristic, and advantage of electric motors is that they produce maximum torque when stalled.

You should see my wife take off on her mobility scooter.

[KeithL]

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Thanks all.
Peter - actually, of series-wound motors. I worked at Coventry Climax many years ago, on fork-lifts. We had to tame the acceleration from stationary with a very special format oscillator, so that acceleration was at a controlled rate; otherwise, a one-wheel drive truck almost spun round, and even after 'taming', it crabbed somewhat! The torque from traction motors is amazing.

[Jim Ford]

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Thanks all.
Peter - actually, of series-wound motors.

I was about to say that myself!

IIRC from my electrical engineering course from over 50 years ago:

At start there's no back EMF generated, so the current, and consequently the torque, can be huge. As the rotational speed increases, so does the back EMF. Hence the current and torque drops off.

Jim

[Guest]

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A wonderfully nostalgic post for me and all of us over sixty or seventy, Keith.

I grew up in Hobart, Tasmania where we had both single and "double decker" trams in the same livery colours as your "159" that were later succeeded by trolly buses (images)
The driver turning the pick up in #2 was a familiar sight, it often happened that the pick up arms on a bend would dislodge from the electric power line bringing the tram to a halt. Gentlemen just went on reading The Mercury while ladies continued knitting - customarily women always occupied the front section of the tram while men, the rear.

Thanks for sharing these and I'll look forward to seeing your next set on this theme.

[Peter_Hartland]

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I like the close ups