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Was anyone brave/mad enough to get out with their camera during the recent riots? If so it would be good to see your photojournalistic efforts.
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With the posting of the faces of some of those involved in the criminal acts of the last week on newspaper front pages I think anyone holding a camera in future at disturbances may not be welcome. I am all for these law breakers being identified, caught and dealt with through the courts but photographers in future be they amateur or professional may have to take more care. On saying that the image of the young woman jumping from a building into the arms of a man below against a raging inferno of a background is a stunning photograph and will live long in the memory. It also conveys the folly and danger of these riots - it's the ordinary people of the locale that have suffered. What was the point? There are no circumstances I can think of that would warrant such action as this rioting.Jamie -
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Yep certainly looks like the wanton greed of a rootless and useless underclass minority. Give them a Blackberry and see how they misuse it. Such badness and wanton destruction. They've opened up a Pandora's Box though - things will get a lot tougher for them - and their so called 'parents'. No civilised society can tolerate that behaviour - from anyone.
I took photojourno shots way back when and while it was a bit scarey it was also a buzz. But I was watching a few of the TOGs on the live coverage of the mayhem and I knew - even if I'd had the chance to do it - I'd not have gone near that out of control mindlessness.
It did strike me - will they let the Nottinghill Carnival go ahead? It's been a bit of a flashpoint in the pastComment
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Not sure that the 'underclass minority' made up the majority involved in the riots.
Seemed to me to be kids who had blackberries, designer clothes and not the poor that some folk would have us believe. Reportedly there was a teaching assistant, daughter of a successful businessman, Olympic hopeful, postman, potential army recruit, students, not your typical underclass IMHO.
I think we have bred a lot of selfish people who see it as OK to loot and steal.
Having writ that, I do believe that some of the folk before the courts are truly repentant, got caught up in the moment as it were.sigpicDaveComment
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I disagree completely. I bet most of the Blackberries are robbed anyway - tools of the trade - like the 14 year old with a hammer hidden in his trousers. There's ZERO excuse for what went on this week. ZERO.Comment
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Definitely. The whole society is to blame. Trouble is some of us have been banging on about this for 20 years and nothing changed. Shame it took the Blitz of 2011 to wake everybody up to the reality of some of the products we have produced - and their dreadful flaws.Originally posted by jamie allan View Post
And anyone older than 20 who was looting should be incarcerated for twice as long - whether an athlete, a ballet dancer or a teaching assi8stant. They really should know better.Comment
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I'm not sure I agree with jamie other than the last sentence.
The moat/birdhouse guy didn't do anything underhand or criminal afaik, just made a ridiculous claim that was paid, a system fault but not criminal.
Apart from No. 4 the rest surely happened during tha last government (?) although I see them as society issues rather than government ones.
These are not conventional "riots" as the aim, in the main, hasn't been to gather in one place and confront the cops, it has been anti-social behaviour on steroids and that's what has made it so difficult to deal with.
I seriously doubt that many of those involved could give more any kind of reasoned account of their understanding of these issues other than a few sensationalist headlines they have picked up on.
We are reaping what we have sown but the seeds are different from those outlined imo.
And in answer to the OP, anyone wandering around with an E5 would be crazy, even the pro's were sticking VERY close to the PSU'shearts at peace under an English heavenComment
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I don't think there is any one single cause of these riots, the underlaying reasons are varied and complex. Part of it is no doubt sheer opportunist criminality, envy, greed, selfishness, gratuitous destruction and violence, and cynical, politically motivated anarchy by the very worst elements of both the extreme Left and ultra Right. There may also be an element of frustration, hopelessness, sense of injustice, deprivation, anger, resentment and feeling disenfranchised.
I'm not making excuses for any of what has occurred, it angers, saddens and perplexes me and trying to analyse it all is far too complex for this forum. However, there will be an official enquiry and I just hope that all the factors or potential causes of this massive breakdown of society are taken into account, not just the bits that suit the Government. Sweeping parts of it under the carpet won't make it go away, it might quieten down or pass unnoticed amongst all the other rhetoric but it will still be there, simmering away until the next time it explodes in our faces. Better to confront it now, debate it fully and frankly, and work on the necessary solutions.John
"A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there � even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau
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I'll bet most of the looters and arsonists (not
"rioters", a far too general term which would also include any peaceful protesters who might be succesfully goaded into distasteful action by another force) were habitual criminals who should've (by and decent moral standards) been in jail but were freed by the country's useless legal system.
We have only the politicials and solicitors/barristers to blame for scum on the streets. Simple as that.
I guess you might be able to tell from this rant I've little sympathy for robbers/arsonists/muggers and I'd like to see them all beheaded.
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Don't sit on the fence Ulfric, say what you mean!
Jamie, I take the thrust of your point and agree entirely.hearts at peace under an English heavenComment
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