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I found my old original HUDL the other day and it still turns on.
Same can't be said for the Nexus 7 that was in the same cupboard, dead as a Dodo.
Also came across a mini laptop, Toshiba NB20010.1in with 2gb ram, that still powers up too.
I appreciate my inputs are a bit too late but for reference, I've had an apple iPad tablet since V1 probably upgrading every 2-3 'cycles'. I've tried the iPad mini, the standard size and the 12.9 size. And every time I've changed I've passed the older version onto another family member to get another 3+ years out of it.
They have become more used than my laptop which I only upgraded last year after 7 years.
I love the fact that you can add mobile data to iPads and 80% of the time I'm consuming, not creating which tablets do very well. And the last point is that I have bought second hand or certified refurbished for every apple item I've bought in the last 10 years. Once you balance a high purchase cost with a cheaper 'discounted' purchase price and many years of use, I think they are great value for money overall.
The Pro versions are probably now just way too over designed for a 'normal' person, I'd probably buy a mid-tier version in the future.
I'm a big fan of 'open box' or refurbished deals. I had an iPad Mini Retina a few years ago but I found the UI limiting compared to Android. I went the opposite way and as laptops became much slimmer and lighter I gave up using a tablet for those very reasons. But you are right, a tablet is excellent for viewing or showing - especially movies and photos.
8GB RAM and 128GB of internal storage is great and you can add more of the latter via a microSD card
Mobile telephony and data (4G) is there if you need it
The 2000x1200 display is good for the price. It has a 10.36in IPS display with good viewing angles, though you will notice the difference side by side with an OLED display, less maximum brightness, contrast and saturation, but colours look fine. It does struggle a bit in bright sunshine.
GPS sensor is included
3.5mm headphone jack is provided
USB-C connectivity and charging is included
Cons
Although it looks like it has two back cameras, only one works and it's basic, especially in low light, but not terrible otherwise. Same for the selfie camera.
I'm not sure you can upgrade from the preinstalled Android 11
I'd like to create a user account for Julia as well as my own but the option isn't showing.
The UI is stock Android - simple and unfettered but no bangs and whistles.
There is a slightly cheaper but heavier version of this tablet, the Tab 11 SE, with a bigger battery, and more RAM, but the processor is about 20% slower. It came out more recently and runs Android 12 instead of 11.
Well this has ended in disappointment. The Blackview tablet stopped working a couple of weeks before its first birthday. I'm having an argument with Blackview over the warranty - they got me to ship it to their nominated repairer but it couldn't be fixed. Under European law I believe I am entitled to a replacement, or my money back, and the return shipping should also be refunded. They could not replace it with the same model as it is not currently available. The offered to replace it with an inferior model, which I rejected, and now they seem to be negotiating a partial refund. It started at 70% of the original price and has now increased to 80%, but I have rejected these offers. The French Amazon-style online market site I used has reassured me that I will be refunded if Blackview won't offer me a solution, but I have to wait another 10 days for that to kick-in.
On reflection, there are a couple of lessons with buying a cheap tablet like this that I have learned. On the positive side, it worked well, and you get a lot of tablet spec. for the money. However, I didn't fully realise that no OS, or even security, updates would be forthcoming. The lack of the ability to set up a second user account was frustrating, too, which is normally standard on Android. And dealing with the manufacturer has been a pain.
So, once I get my money back, what to replace it with? Samsung has just released the 11 inch Tab A9 Plus, which looks nice, and is a few Euros less than what I paid for the Blackview. It has less RAM and flash storage than the Blackview, and no mobile data support (which is nice to have but not really critical) at anywhere near an equivalent price, and it's all-plastic construction, while the Blackview had a nice metal finish and a standard neat flip case/stand. But the Tab A9 Plus probably has an adequate amount of RAM (4GB) and an adequate 64GB storage (expandable via TF/MicroSD). The Tab A9 Plus has a faster Snapdragon chipset, too. I can also expect several years of OS and security updates and I'm sure it will allow extra user accounts to be set up. For a bit more there is an 8GB RAM plus 128GB storage version.
I did read one review and it was basically positive, but the reviewer also said why not consider the slightly older Tab 6 Lite? This has an S-Pen - a Wacom-style (maybe made by Wacom?) touch sensitive stylus. I used to have a Galaxy Note 7 with S-Pen a long time ago and I was using a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 smartphone with S-Pen up until about 6 years ago, so the Tab 6 Lite is rather appealing!
That's a shame Ian, I hope you get a full refund. Samsung are more expensive, but go on and on in my experience. Going for an older model means security and OS updates will stop sooner. My Tab S5e is still working well, but slow updating apps from the Play Store. When I replace it, it will be with one with plenty of memory and a fast processor. A shame Android doesn't get proper attention from Google on tablets. I've just got a fancy new Lenovo laptop with a touch screen that folds flat, which might overlap a bit with tablet usage, but Windows of course. I've never felt the need of a stylus. Best of luck in your choice.
I have the Tab S6 Lite, so any questions fire away.
My wife has a Tab S7, that also has a pen/stylus.
It is a overall a more refined tablet, but also unsurpringly more expensive.
Mine does have the advantage of being able to take a sim card, but I have never used that facility.
Big apple fan here as well , I.phone ,Mac mini ,and brand new I.pad as the last one died a death in early march .. I tend to use my phone for casual stuff , the Mac mini for processing as it has a 32” monitor screen and I’m usually on the forum on my I.pad from the settee
wornish Yes, on paper, a lot of tablet for the money, but I do regret buying it. I should have done more research - not getting any software updates and the absent ability to create a second user account, for me, was not something I realised when I bought the tablet. The eventually unreliability and poor customer service just compounded this. 'as you will see below, I have now bought a second hand Samsung for not much more and it's light years ahead of the Blackview.
For those of you still interested in this mini-saga
I had set my heart on a used Samsung Tab S6 Lite, like the one Tram has, though there are three iterations as well as WiFi-only and 4G mobile data-enabled versions. I did make an offer on a 2022 4GB RAM/64GB flash model at 150 Euros (around £130) but someone else beat me to it.
But I consider this fortunate as I managed to find a Tab S8 advertised for €250. This is the 'flagship' Samsung 11 inch tablet from 2022 - hiigher res, brighter screen with 120Hz refresh rate, 8GB RAM and 126GB storage, and improved S Pen latency.
It's also a lot more powerful than the S6 Lite. The example advertised was missing its S Pen but does have 4 months warranty remaining and it was bought from a well known local Currys-like chain, which gave me a bit of confidence. I made an offer of €225 and this was accepted. It should arrive by the end of the week.
I've ordered a supposedly genuine replacement Samsung S Pen off eBay for €15 - we'll see if it supports the Bluetooth functionality of a genuine pen, though that's not too important to me as the pen will work without it.
So that's a total of €240, plus shipping and a payment protection fee that the classified ads site, Leboncoin, charges, so €254 (£221) delivered, with S Pen, compared to £649 when it was launched! It will run the latest Android 14 and should get 15 next year, and will get other updates for the next couple of years
It needs a case, and there is an excellent Samsung case that converts to a stand, with a keyboard, but that will have to wait until my next trip to the UK as a), I need to save up! and b) the ones in France are AZERTY, not QWERTY!.
rustyarrow A Surface is very nice, but I already have a serviceable 14 inch slimline notebook/laptop PC, so what I was personally looking for was a medium-sized tablet, and the 11 inch Tab 8 is just about perfect
Just found an original as-new used Samsung magnetic 'book' case (not the one with the keyboard) for €12 (just over £10), shipped! These used to have a stupid price of £60-ish though Amazon are selling them for £20 now.
Incidentally, another nice thing about the Tab S8 is that it can fast charge at 45W over USB, but no charger is included... sounds familiar
Interesting discussion which I've only just seen. I don't edit on my tablet because it's an Amazon Fire 8 although as I hacked a Google Play on to it it now thinks it's a 7 so I mainly use it as a Kindle...
All the photography editing apps are on my phone (Google Pixel 6 pro). I have a laptop, but can't remember the last time I turned it on - probably when I signed up for my last Spanish class at the beginning of the year which was then cancelled for lack of support. So all my editing is done on my aging PC which, like me, is getting a little slow now! but luckily it still copes with the Adobe suite.
As I use Lightroom I can use Lightroom Mobile on my Android phone and tablet. On the phone I can import the RAW files from the camera wirelessly using OI Share and then export to LR. The Mobile version of LR is pretty much just as powerful for image editing. Photoshop isn't available in its full form, just a very basic Express version. But there are many third party Android apps, like Snapspeed, for editing photos. I don't know how well the S Pen works on these. I am using a Wacom tablet more and more for the desktop and Lightroom Classic. It will be interesting to see how they compare. A long time ago I had a Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 (not to be confused with the phone of a similar name) and that also had an early form of S Pen. I also had a Galaxy Note 4 phone with S Pen until about 7 or 8 years ago, so i'm no stranger to the S Pen concept, although it has evolved considerably in that time.
Nice surprise this afternoon - the second hand Samsung Tab S8 arrived this afternoon, and I'm currently copying all my accounts, data, and apps across from my phone at the moment.
It's really thin and light! It looks to be in very good condition apart from a circular mark on the back, possibly left by a suction holder, but I will try to clean that off if possible. But it will hardly be seen once the case is on, so it's n big deal.
I got an S8+ not long after they came out on a brilliant Samsung deal that included a PX trade in for my old Samsung tablet. It basically meant I got the new one for almost half price which took the sting out of buying a new one. Not as cheap as your deal though. I'm sure you will like it it's a great tablet.
I got an S8+ not long after they came out on a brilliant Samsung deal that included a PX trade in for my old Samsung tablet. It basically meant I got the new one for almost half price which took the sting out of buying a new one. Not as cheap as your deal though. I'm sure you will like it it's a great tablet.
Superb, the S8+ has the 12.4 (vs 11) inch screen and it's AMOLED. I do prefer the smaller size and it's a wonder they didn't endow the 11 inch version with the AMOLED display as well.
Yes that is odd Ian, presumably it was a money saving move. I went for the larger one as I'd had the bigger size before and this one is actually physically smaller overall.
One thing I have to say is that it's about time OM System optimised OI Share for tablets (at least for Android tablet tablets - it might be different on iOS iPads) but turning a great tablet into a giant smartphone look is not cool!
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