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  • Em1MkII video with LS-P4 Audio Recorder

    I decided to get an Olympus LS-P4 audio recorder to capture ambient audio for some projects creating short wildlife videos from clips when I go around nature reserves. I thought I would write up my findings in case anyone else is interested in trying this.

    I had seen this setup at the Photography Show last year where someone on the Olympus stand demonstrated it to me and I have seen some Olympus videos online. They commonly show this recorder mounted on the hot shoe with a small hotshoe / tripod screw adaptor. One problem I saw with this is the recorder sticks out and impedes use of the EVF (it bangs on your head). I think the idea is to use the screen for video but I prefer the EVF when sitting in hides etc. So I got this Movo bracket shown in the photo below to solve that. This also allows to mount a pixel remote (shown in photo) for remote trigger of the camera (which I hope to use for some bank voles video recording with ambient sound). I also got an audio cable to plug the audio out from the recorder into the camera so the audio is also recorded alongside the video as well as on the LS-P4 (hopefully a better copy on the recorder). So the picture below shows my EM1MkII festooned with all this stuff. I don’t use the pixel remote when just walking around capturing video (“run and gun” is what I believe this is called..).

    Findings so far;

    - There is no way to start the audio at the same time as starting video on the camera. I either have to start the audio and leave it running or press the right buttons on each device which is fiddly. On this audio recorder you have to press record twice as the first press sets it to a paused mode to monitor sound levels first. I think this is a big oversight by Olympus. Their previous recorder LS-100 supported a USB connection.

    - Mounting on the hot shoe means handling noises from the camera can come into the audio (button presses etc). This can be resolved with mounting on a tripod and using touch screen controls on the camera.

    - Mounting on the hot shoe also captures low rumbling gyro noise from IS lenses like the 300 F4 into any ambient sound picked up (bird song etc). So it might be better to plant the audio device separately on a tripod. I went to a small village reserve the other day hoping to try this, there wasn’t a lot of birdsong but I got a lot of 300 F4 IS rumble! I need to do more investigation of this.

    - The microphones on the device are OK but you are fighting signal to noise with low level ambient sounds or distant birdsong so then it is into buying expensive external mics. It might be fine for capturing a musical performance though.

    - It is possible to remote trigger the LS-P4 with a BlueTooth connection to an Olympus Android app. So I can remote trigger it with my pixel remote for video and my phone for audio. There doesn’t seem to be an Apple/iOS app.

    - If you have the audio connection to the camera, the in-camera video has the audio track which allows syncing up the audio from the recorder later in software. Packages like DaVinci Resolve seem pretty good at this.


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  • #2
    Interesting setup. Would 2 hot shoe mounts stuck together with double sided sticky foam or a piece of rubber help isolate the noise?
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    • BDennis
      BDennis commented
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      Yes it might - I have been thinking about something like that. I need to have a look through my various “things I kept because they might be useful” boxes. It needs to be sturdy enough to not fall off when carrying around. There are also various shock mounts you can buy off the shelf - some quite expensive for what they are!

  • #3
    I've not explored video much, so am interested to know whether the enhanced quality through the LS-P4 is better than sticking a higher quality microphone onto the camera alone?

    The video you posted with the Grebes certainly had good quality audio with it!

    As you've said Olympus have missed a trick by not synchronising the operation of the two devices... I'd suggest some feedback via their site.
    Paul

    Retired and loving it.

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    • #4
      If you go to this page there is a video showing the difference between an external mic and this recording device.



      I got the recorder myself as interested in using it for recording birdsong when not doing video. If you don't want to spend over £100 on a recorder, the mic option may be adequate.

      Also Olympus have issued a firmware update to the LS-P4 today with the new camera released today. It is not clear if this adds the USB link up to the cameras or even a Bluetooth control option. They do seem to be pushing this recorder to be used with the new em1 mk3.
      https://www.flickr.com/photos/macg33zr/

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      • #5
        That explained the difference very well - need to view it again with better speakers!

        Many thanks, let’s hope the firmware update helps!
        Paul

        Retired and loving it.

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        • #6
          More on my findings with this audio recorder Olympus are plugging for use with the Em1Mk3 and other cameras for recording higher quality audio with video..

          I installed the firmware update v1.10 for this recorder.

          What it adds is:
          • A "slate tone" (a beep to the rest of us) can be generated to allow sync of the audio file with the camera video file audio
            • This tone is only generated if the output of the recorder is plugged into the camera
            • You have to press a button on the audio recorder to generate this after starting a recording
            • The updated Olympus workspace software has a feature to find the tone and replace the audio in a movie with the recorded audio
          • The possibility to generate a test tone for setting up levels when outputting the audio to another device
          I have tried this out and it works. The slate tone thing may be useful for synching audio / video where quiet background ambient sounds are captured, otherwise the software I have tried is good at synching audio and video on the waveforms.

          I cannot see any other useful features like USB or BlueTooth integration to allow control of the recorder from the EM-1.xxxx cameras. There is BlueTooth on some of the cameras so this would be a really useful integration point.

          The update details are here:
          https://www.olympus.co.uk/site/en/a/...downloads.html

          Olympus UK seem to have omitted to the link to download the actual updater software for this so I got it from the US site:
          https://learnandsupport.getolympus.c...nload-software
          https://www.flickr.com/photos/macg33zr/

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          • #7
            Here is another video demonstrating the use of the recorder compared to using other gear:


            https://www.flickr.com/photos/macg33zr/

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