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I see Oly has a deal out of £1,099 for a EM1 Mk3. I got 2 EM1 Mk2 cameras. Should I buy this Mk3 or wait until end of Summer and buy the OM1. Decisions, decisions lol.
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Where do you see this deal? -
Could be a UK deal. There is nothing here on it.Comment
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That depends on what you photograph and what shortcomings there are in your E-M1 Mk II cameras. Why do you need to upgrade at all?Larry Griffiths
Cameras: OM System OM-1, Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mk III, Olympus OM-D E-M1 | Flashes: Olympus FL-900R, Olympus FL-50R
Lenses: Too many to list.Comment
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Having gone mkii to mkiii .. they are totally different it took me a few months to settle in with mine but love it now .. main advantage so far is the grips don’t appear to come lose . Lots of other bells and whistles to
The OM 1 is still on my wanted list but I’m in no rushComment
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I might wait until end of Summer or Xmas and buy the OM1 or whatever comes next...This is a Good deal though and Tempting..If it had said £900 I would of bought it straight away lolComment
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I did a EM1.2 vs EM1.3 comparison here:
https://www.e-group.uk.net/forum/for...em1-2-vs-em1-3
My conclusion:
I also had the OM1 (briefly) but returned it due to S-AF problems. That's a much bigger step up, esp in AF, but the IQ is pretty much the same. Comparison here:So, in summary:
- I really don't think it's that much of an upgrade over the 2. With an improved EVF, or perhaps some of the EM1x's subject recognition then it would have been more justified.
- It's still a very nice camera - but so is the EM1.2.
- Is it worth the upgrade cost? - well, you'll have to make your own mind up. I've had the EM1.2 for four years and have lost about £800 in its capital cost. That's about £16/month. I'll be restarting the clock now and expect something similar. For 2 stops more DR in landscapes, it's worth that much - but unless this is really a burning issue for you, I'd say best to stick with your EM1.2. Hopefully the EM1.4 will bring something larger in the upgrade department - maybe a new EVF or a better sensor?
https://www.e-group.uk.net/forum/for...-and-the-em1-3
My summary in that comparison:
Overall, I do think the OM1 is an excellent camera and the best m43 offering to date. I'm disappointed that the IQ improvement claims didn't materialise and of course that S-AF has some teething problems, but overall, it is a worthwhile improvement over the EM1.3.Comment
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I had a iii for a short period, joystick was nice, but similar in many respects to my ii.
Same old evf and lcd, ibis seemed equal and any af improvements were not that important to me
Returned it for a refund, I was never sure it would be worth the extra caah.
Bought used so I would feel ok about it should a return be wanted.Comment
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pdk42--Thanks. I shall stick to my Em1 Mk2 (both of them) and wait n see what comes out next from OM Systems..Thanks for the info.Comment
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Personally I'm not after one otherwise the attached link is the option I'd go forOriginally posted by Dennis Russ View Post
And a shutter count of just 708
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HHHR sounds like a big benefit of Mk iii over Mk ii for certain sorts of image (with static subjects). Do people find this useful in practice?
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It can be useful sometimes, but....
i) If there's any subject movement then it's not suitable. Even foliage movement in a breeze can be problematic.
ii) The composing time can be annoying if you're trying to shoot various angles on a scene.
iii) Processing of the raws is tricky in terms of sharpening.
iv) The increase in resolution isn't really that much in reality (in terms of showing more real detail as opposed to the headline Mp). The win in terms of shadow noise and DR is well worth it though - I reckon at least 2 stops. This is the real benefit of HHHR in my view. I wish that Olympus would provide a HHHR at 20Mp with just the noise/DR wins. Fewer shots would be needed, the stacking would be way quicker, and the sharpening challenges in PP wouldn't be there.
TBH, I don't use it a lot. I find a 5-shot EV bracket is more effective at improving DR and it's quicker and easier to handle in PP (once the stacking is done).
HHHR was one of the justifications I used to get the EM1.3, but in truth I haven't really used it a lot.
LiveND can achieve similar noise and DR improvements and I use that probably a little more than HHHR, but actually without at least a low-attenuation real ND filter, the aperture needs to be too small in most circumstances to use LiveND (f11 or f16 in daylight conditions) so you're into diffraction territory. The OM1 goes a stop further in its virtual ND effect, so it's a bit better - but neither is really enough on its own.
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Here is why I was thinking of purchasing a second camera.
When I go on photo shoots, many times with my local camera club, I find that I wish I had a second camera hanging around my neck with a different lens attached to it. I am really trying to look like a super nerd.
I would like to be able to switch easily between lenses without find a bench to sit on and digging into my backpack, exposing the camera and lenses to dust and debris, etc. as I change from one lens to the next and then often back again to the first lens. It is a vicious cycle. So, I was going to buy another E1 MKii because the price was right, I love the one I have and if I had a second camera that was identical, then switching between two cameras would be easy because all the controls would remain in the same place. If one camera was a Mii and the other a Miii, I would get confused if the options for the settings are different from one camera to the other. I might lose of good shot, or just screw it up royal. After a while, in addition to two cameras hanging from around my neck, and trying to remember what camera I had in my hand, I might get a headache. I remember when many of you bought the E1 Miii and were upset where they put the new controls and that it took a lot of getting use to.
If the MIII is not that much better than the MII, then, why should I spend the extra bucks for a headache?
LORELLComment
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I think that makes sense. If you need two cameras active at once, then it makes a lot of sense for them to both be the same. I recently shot an event and used two cameras - one the EM1.3, the other the EM5.3. Despite them being quite close in functionality and menus, the differences are significant enough that it diverted brain time to remember how to do things on each camera that could have better been spent taking the photos!
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Thank you ALL for answering my Question/Request. I going to stick with both my Em1 Mk2 until at least Christmas. If OMSystems do not bring out what I'm looking for then I could move to the Top Panasonic, you never know. Watch this space. lol.Comment
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Why would you want to do that? The G9 has terrible AF, is huge and ugly, and does nothing better than the EM1.2/3/x, let alone the OM1. The GH6 is a whale, hugely video-focused, has a cooling fan, and from all accounts is worse at stills than the GH5 that it replaces. And then there's the awful handling and the non-existent support and service. I'd go to Sony or Fuji or Nikon before I'd touch Panasonic!I could move to the Top Panasonic
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