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  • New SONY Sensor

    When this makes it into the next generation of bodies, things are going to be very interesting...

    https://www.bestcameranews.com/sony-unveils-the-47mp-mft-sensor-that-can-shoot-8k-30p-video/

    Graham

    We often repeat the mistakes we most enjoy...

  • #2
    Nice. Would be good to have hi res without the multi exposure trickery.
    Paul
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    • #3
      Imagine that Hires..over 100Mp per shot .
      * Henry
      * Location: Subang Jaya, Selangor
      * Malaysia


      All my garbage so far.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by blu-by-u View Post
        Imagine that Hires..over 100Mp per shot .
        What size/cost the memory cards

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        • Ian
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          Memory cards are really cheap now! It's speed, not capacity, that costs these days.

      • #5
        Might it be in the EM1MkIII ?

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        • #6
          I'm not sure I'd go for that actually. Wonder what the high iso noise performance would be like?
          http://www.flickr.com/photos/flip_photo_flickr/

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          • #7
            Originally posted by Phill D View Post
            I'm not sure I'd go for that actually. Wonder what the high iso noise performance would be like?
            At high pixel count (i.e. individual pixel) the high iso noise will be an issue but, don't forget these days with some clever software it's possible to do pixel binning as they do in smartphones. That reduces high ISO noise significantly, If you did 4:1 binning you would still end up with a 12MP image and the noise would be reduced by a factor of 4.

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            • #8
              OK Dave so now I'm more interested just have to wait for the price
              http://www.flickr.com/photos/flip_photo_flickr/

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              • #9
                Originally posted by Phill D View Post
                OK Dave so now I'm more interested just have to wait for the price
                I think you are right about that. I cant see it being cheap maybe have to start saving for next Christmas ( or the one after that)

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by Dave in Wales View Post

                  What size/cost the memory cards
                  We might have to get used to 36 shots per card, like film in the old days
                  John

                  "A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there � even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau

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                  • Ian
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                    You made me chuckle this morning, John

                  • Phill D
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                    Me too John very witty although it took me 2 days to see this comment!

                • #11
                  I'd say this sensor was developed with video cameras in mind, but let's see how well its still credentials stack up!

                  Ian
                  Founder and editor of:
                  Olympus UK E-System User Group (https://www.e-group.uk.net)

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                  • #12
                    Originally posted by wornish View Post

                    At high pixel count (i.e. individual pixel) the high iso noise will be an issue but, don't forget these days with some clever software it's possible to do pixel binning as they do in smartphones. That reduces high ISO noise significantly, If you did 4:1 binning you would still end up with a 12MP image and the noise would be reduced by a factor of 4.
                    Will that increase the sensitivity of the sensor? Like base ISO jumps by another stop? So instead of the current ISO 200, it goes up (400 or 800)? Maybe that accounts for the new line of f4 lenses
                    * Henry
                    * Location: Subang Jaya, Selangor
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                    • #13
                      Originally posted by blu-by-u View Post

                      Will that increase the sensitivity of the sensor? Like base ISO jumps by another stop? So instead of the current ISO 200, it goes up (400 or 800)? Maybe that accounts for the new line of f4 lenses
                      Pixel binning does not have any effect on the sensitivity it only reduces the noise by a process of cancellation. The existing noise reduction setting on the EM1mk2 achieves a similar thing but it actually takes a second shot and then subtracts it. This works fairly well for short exposures but is a pain when doing long ones.

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                      • #14
                        Originally posted by wornish View Post

                        Pixel binning does not have any effect on the sensitivity it only reduces the noise by a process of cancellation. The existing noise reduction setting on the EM1mk2 achieves a similar thing but it actually takes a second shot and then subtracts it. This works fairly well for short exposures but is a pain when doing long ones.
                        My E-M1ii seems to have stopped doing the second shot and I can’t find a setting that may have switched it off....

                        slow photo shadows come out very very noisy and Lightroom auto insists in lifting shadows which makes it worse (I use the auto adjust as a starting point)
                        Paul

                        Retired and loving it.

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                        • #15
                          Originally posted by Walti View Post

                          My E-M1ii seems to have stopped doing the second shot and I can’t find a setting that may have switched it off....

                          slow photo shadows come out very very noisy and Lightroom auto insists in lifting shadows which makes it worse (I use the auto adjust as a starting point)
                          Noise Reduction is enabled or disabled by going to MENU - Cogwheel - E1. its at the bottom of the list.

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