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  • #16
    Originally posted by Phill D View Post
    Ah so you did win the lottery . Seems like an interesting new path to explore. How heavy are those two lenses?
    7 or 8 lbs per lens phill the zoom is just about hand holdable the 500 is definitely a tripod job for me ,but F4 is the magic number for winter wildlife ,will probably give me a extra half hour on site

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    • Phill D
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      Ooh those are pretty hefty. Probably about 1/3rd heavier than the OMDS 150-600. Those large apertures certainly add weight.

  • #17
    My eyes lit up when I saw those Nikon lenses Jeff, sounds like you came out a winner 😉

    Edit: and a Gitzo tripod to boot 😋
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    • #18
      after a few days of humming and arghing and testing out all combinations of lenses /cameras ,mono and tripods also including my lads sony gear I have come to the point of making my mind up . the tamron 150-600 is gone , the nikon 500mmf4 is being passed on to my lad as its to heavy for me And my tripod . 8lbs .. im keeping the 200-400 f4 vr and the nikon d500 as its a useable combo .. but my main camera will return to being the OM1 I have the 300 f4 + 1.4 and 2x tc's and will be looking at getting the 100-400mkii sometime soon .
      you really have to try the options out properly to make your choices and with 3 different brands in house its easier to. luckily I know and love my olympus gear but I have to admit it was a close call one lesson learned is no matter how good and sharp something looks on the back of the camera it doesn't carry to the computer

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      • Keith-369
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        In all fairness, Jeff, understanding your back problems, I think you have made the right choice .... and by the right method.

        As for your comment "no matter how good and sharp something looks on the back of the camera it doesn't carry to the computer", the amount of times I've checked a photo on the camera and nearly whooped because I got a cracker ....... then got home and nearly cried because it just wasn't right .....................

      • blackfox
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        Yep that applies mainly to the Sony 36mp sensor look incredible on camera screen ,fall apart when processing I also found the Sony clunky compared to the om1 , can see now why people are changing

    • #19
      I thought it was a Nikon you were trying Jeff not a Sony? Did I miss something along the way. What model Sony are you referring to?
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      • #20
        Originally posted by Phill D View Post
        I thought it was a Nikon you were trying Jeff not a Sony? Did I miss something along the way. What model Sony are you referring to?
        The Sony is my sons it’s a brand new ar7mkiv I believe and a 200-600 lens , yes the bird I.d works but it’s nowhere near as smooth as the Olympus and as I said the results on the camera look superb but that doesn’t translate once on computer , no doubt given time I could get good results with it , I fully admit I got moved off track by last weeks deals but that’s hopefully now been put to bed . My next purchase is likely to be a 100-400mkii to get long reach zoom back .
        As for the Nikon it’s taken a lot of my time up this summer and it’s fun to use but hard work at times ,and now the winters drawing In I need the flexibility of the iso on the Olympus and the lightning fast reaction time and lightness .
        If I had taken to the Sony it might have been a different ending but as I said having three systems in house allows for cross system testing with them all set up correctly rather than testing in a shop , and btw my son who is far cleverer than me has already had a canon mirrorless system and sold again within a few months to move to Sony now he’s going for Nikon z and if I had liked the Sony a good deal was on offer

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        • Phill D
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          Lots of great experience there Jeff. Thanks for sharing it with us.

      • #21
        Further update after using over the weekend, I have decided in conjunction with my lad that the 500mm f4 although a super lens is far to big and awkward for general use so it’s being sold on .. I’m retaining the 200-400 and t.c and using that side by side with my om1 and at some point soon I will be purchasing a 100-400 mkii to run alongside the 300 mm f4 …. My lad has ordered a Nikon z 200-800z lens to test against his Sony gear . It’s all trial and elimination you honestly can’t buy based on u.tube biased reviews..I know it may sound a long winded way to go about things but the end result is what counts , it’s also taken away my desire for FF multi mp sensors all part of the learning curve

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        • #22
          Quite a journey Jeff, a lot cheaper for us though . So given your last throwaway comment, what took away the FF desire?
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          • #23
            Originally posted by Phill D View Post
            Quite a journey Jeff, a lot cheaper for us though . So given your last throwaway comment, what took away the FF desire?
            The extra megapixels carry the fact that you have to crop in more , and once done the noise increases with it , in totally perfect conditions there may be a slightly better outcome but in our constantly changing weather I honestly can’t see any advantage . My views on this may well change once my lads properly matched Nikon z 800 mm zoom turns up but for now at least I can say been there done that .
            Other companies may be playing catch up with mirrorless and subject I.d but nothing I have yet used over the past months from canon,Sony,or Nikon beat the smoothness and pleasure that my OM gear gives

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            • Phill D
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              Thanks for the thoughts Jeff, very interesting.

          • #24
            Gear is indeed a very personal choice. I tried both Sony and Nikon FF mirrorless systems but didn’t gel with them. Yet the Panasonic S cameras work well for me. But I wish Olympus could have pushed the sensor tech just a bit further since I’d probably still be in the system if they had. In fact, if they had done with the OM1 what Panasonic have done with the DR boost feature in the G9ii, then I would have definitely not gone over to FF. I still sometimes think a G9ii with the Olympus 12-100 and PL 8-18 would make a great two lens landscape kit.
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            • Phill D
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              Maybe that sort of DR boost technology is being saved for a MK3 Paul ahead of a more major sensor update in the future?

            • pdk42
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              Who knows Phill. I remember when the OM1 was launched and we discovered it used the IMX 472 there were discussions about whether the sensor supports a so-called "dual integration time" feature. This gives the possibility of two different integration times - a short one and a long one - for the same pixels in a single exposure. This technique allows the sensor to capture a wide dynamic range, as the short exposure prevents bright areas from becoming saturated while the long exposure collects enough light for darker regions, with the final image being a composite of both. I'm pretty sure this is what Panasonic are doing. I'm guessing that the IMX 472 doesn't support it (but the very terse datasheet does mention a HDR readout mode); it would be frustrating beyond belief if the sensor allows it but OM decided not to use it in their firmware!
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