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    Mrs Shenstone asked me for a picture of a specific moth, a Herald moth that is found in cave entrances ( see below) that she wanted to do a painting of for the upcoming Hidden Earth conference which has an Art salon)

    I knew I had taken loads of pictures of them in multiple caves, but the question was where and when so I could find the files

    About an hout later I managed that, but it made me think about DAM systems and this is my research so far. I would appreciate any thoughts before I finalise

    it needs to be photo focussed
    I need it to be fast or I won't bother with it
    ​I need it to have a proper database that searches across all my Image disks (about 200k Images) not just in one folder like Bridge does with keywording
    it needs to have all the usual things like rating, bookmarting etc that I have in other software, for selecting and culling, but I don't need it to be a RAW processor (other than for viewing within it'self)
    I need it to handle ORF and JPG versions (and extra versions based on post processing) as a group when I decide to or as individual files
    I need it to handle complex relationships e.g. a person can be a member of multiple groups, but I just want to name them once and some very complex biological and geological hierarchy structures (see simple one below)
    I need to be able to move these around and restructure easily until it becomes mature
    I need it to handle keywording (not that I use it at the moment, but thinking for the future) and Metadata Editing (e.g. on a US trip I forgot to set the timezone on one of my cameras and I want the pictures to agree with the other cameras)
    It needs to catch up if I do something outside in e.g. DXO or Faststone and find the new versions and just add them as versions or delete files that I have deleted
    Multi user isn't needed (which rules out many things out there as they are more focussed on that and access control than the photo management)
    Oh. and it needs to not be stupidly expensive as many of these systems are when aimed at businesses

    So far I tried a few things and the one I seem to be coming back to ( I tried a very early version many years ago, but at that time it wasn't up to it) is Imatch https://www.photools.com/imatch/

    I have so far imported 120k images into the sytem and in 8 days (About 2 hours per day) built a catalogue and categorised 22k of them
    it can certainly handle my complex hierarchy e.g. limestones of different ages are either in their stratigraphic place or in a bucket of all limestones in Rock type
    It is also handling the versions that I have created from a single Raw file very well
    I've sorted out some of my mis-timezoned pictures

    I am still in the trial period so before i make my final decision any other suggestions ( not Bridge, Lightroom, ACDC, Elements organizer, as I have already ruled those out as not being up to it)

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    4/3 Kit E510, E30 + 35macro, 11-22, 14-45 (x2), 14-54, 40-150 (both types), 70-300,
    m 4/3 EM1MkII + 60 macro, 12-100 Pro, 100-400
    FL20, FL36 x2 , FL50, cactus slaves etc.
    The Boss (Mrs Shenstone) E620, EM10-II, 14-41Ez, 40-150R, 9 cap and whatever she can nick from me when she wants it

    My places
    http://www.shenstone.me.uk
    http://landroverkaty.blogspot.com/
    https://vimeo.com/shenstone
    http://cardiffnaturalists.org.uk/
    http://swga.org.uk/

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    I would add “future proof” to list of requirements. By that I mean it should not store data in an internal format that would not be understood by some other package. Having migrated from silkypix to lightroom to aperture to lightroom to capture one I’m frustratingly aware of issues when migrating.

    Ian asked a question some months ago about using AI to generate tags/indexs automatically. Not sure of the outcome of his research

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    • shenstone
      shenstone commented
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      That's what the keywords will possibly be used for which is why I included it. But until then the most efficient database is more important IMO

  • #3
    Lightroom has DAM built in but you need to be disciplined enough to enter the keywords when you add photos.

    Some AI trained photo identification is around but probably not precise enough for specific moth species!

    Ian
    Founder and editor of:
    Olympus UK E-System User Group (https://www.e-group.uk.net)

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    • Ian
      Ian commented
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      You could segment your images by broad category and maintain several smaller catalogues.My current catalogue has 40,000 images and I'm not noticing any obvious issues, though.

    • shenstone
      shenstone commented
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      I could, but why bother when i can find something that is rated to be good performance for over 1 million images

    • Ian
      Ian commented
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      Indeed - it was just in case your already had Lightroom.

  • #4
    My brother uses this - he thinks it's fantastic - I have no idea!

    IDimager Photo Supreme is cross-platform Digital Asset Management software for macOS and Windows, focused on business and personal image management.
    Paul

    Retired and loving it.

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    • #5
      Originally posted by Walti View Post
      My brother uses this - he thinks it's fantastic - I have no idea!

      https://www.idimager.com
      Thanks I hadn't come across this

      if I didn't have the complex needs around categorisation this may have been good enough

      Also interesting it has some information on moving from Imatch (in which I am increasingly finding extra things in that make me think that I will adopt it), but their information is partially incorrect/misleading and their support model seems limitted .. .I am finding the Imatch user forum which the developer also inhabits) almost as good as this fourm for finding answers and tips

      4/3 Kit E510, E30 + 35macro, 11-22, 14-45 (x2), 14-54, 40-150 (both types), 70-300,
      m 4/3 EM1MkII + 60 macro, 12-100 Pro, 100-400
      FL20, FL36 x2 , FL50, cactus slaves etc.
      The Boss (Mrs Shenstone) E620, EM10-II, 14-41Ez, 40-150R, 9 cap and whatever she can nick from me when she wants it

      My places
      http://www.shenstone.me.uk
      http://landroverkaty.blogspot.com/
      https://vimeo.com/shenstone
      http://cardiffnaturalists.org.uk/
      http://swga.org.uk/

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