Noise Levels

[stevednp3]

Is anyone finding that the E-30 has very high noise at ISO 200 and above, I have just upgraded from an 410 and im dissappointed with my current results.

I hoping its me and I havent got some settings set up correctly

Can anyone please give me some advice if possible ?

Thanks in advance

Steve

[PeterD]

Re: Noise Levels

Steve

I am sorry to hear of your problems with the E30. Have you looked at thw Wrotniak site http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/43/e30-samp-iso.html ?
The samples he has produced look fine up to ISO 400 and get progressivly noisy from ISO 800. I don't think they are any worse than the E3 and looks to be mainly chroma noise which is easily removed.
I don't know if you already have it but the Neat Image noise removal utility is very good.
Sorry, not much help I know but perhaps someone else with the E30 will answer your post soon.
Good luck

Peter

[EH1]

Re: Noise Levels

Hi,

Yes I bought an E-30 afew days ago & posted a message on here to say it suffers from bad noise (compared to an E-3). Ian was going to do his own test into this problem, but I don`t know what conclusion he came to! I still go out every day with my 2 E-3 bodies as I dont think the results of my E-30 are good enough for my work as a freelance photographer. Im very sorry to say that my E-30 is heading for ebay!

[PeterD]

Re: Noise Levels

Ian,

Thats surprising comments about the E30. One yes, maybe a rogue, but two?

Whats equally surprising is that the Wrotniak site does not even hint of this problem. Any news of your testing/enquiries?

Peter

[stevednp3]

Re: Noise Levels

Thanks for the replys guys, I went out today and took some portrait shots and came back with really good results and noise free pics, I was using mainly ISO100 mind.

It might just be me expecting fantastic things after spending the money the e-30 costs and the 410 was giving such good pics that there is not much of un upgrade in image quality. The features of the e-30 are amazing though, just wish the images jump out at me more as better quality

I'll do more testing and report back

I have also invested in noiseware pro plugin for photoshop, to see if that will help when needed

Thanks again !

[rich s]

Re: Noise Levels

These are some images taken last night, using the E30 with 35-100. All processed in Capture One 4, default settings. No other NR or sharpening used.

ISO 1600


ISO 1250


ISO 1250


ISO 1250



And this with a 35-100, is a crop of an ISO 800 shot from a concert on Saturday - how these compare with an E4XX or E5XX or E3 I can't say, but I don't have any concerns myself, and they clean up anyway for me in Noiseware.

[stevednp3]

Re: Noise Levels

Hi Rich

Sorry but the images are not loading, can you re-upload them - thanks - Steve

[rich s]

Re: Noise Levels

Hi Rich

Sorry but the images are not loading, can you re-upload them - thanks - Steve

Strange - they all loaded for me. So I tried copying from the pBase page URL and nothing showed. So went back to copying the URL from properties - and it seems to load OK again on my laptop .... any ideas what's going wrong?

[stevednp3]

Re: Noise Levels

Yes strange im just getting a red cross in a box, im going out today to take some shots I'll try uploading some later for you to see if mine works and then you can compare with yours - thanks

[PaulE]

Re: Noise Levels

Looks like the images have hot link protection and so won't embed into a post here. If you access the images directly (via the image urls) they will show properly, these images will then get cached on your computer so when you re-visit the post here your computer realises it already has a temporary copy of this image stored so doesn't try to download the image again instead it displays as an embedded image as you would expect.

Only real answer is to either host the images somewhere else where hotlink protection isn't enabled or simply place the url of the image in the post so people can visit the images on the hosts page instead of trying to embed an image in the post.

HTH

[terryw]

Re: Noise Levels

Just taken a series of shots with strong backlighting of some herbs on our kitchen window sill using the E-30 with an Oly 18-180 lens. Shots taken at ISO 200, 400, 800, 1600 & 3200. Bearing in mind I am comparing these to ones shot on my E-1 they look fine up to 800 and I was even pleasantly surpised at 1600 but 3200 was very noisy. The noise/grain from the 1600 looks a lot better than prints I remember getting off Iso 1600 film from Fuji some years ago. I used ESp mode and got a fairly underexposed image which was easily doctored on PS.

Hope this helps.

Terry

[OlyPaul]

Re: Noise Levels

Strange - they all loaded for me. So I tried copying from the pBase page URL and nothing showed. So went back to copying the URL from properties - and it seems to load OK again on my laptop .... any ideas what's going wrong?

If you copy from the pbase url you need to put it in Image Brackets [img]--.jpg[/img] and add the .jpg extension.

My E-30 should arrive tommorow.

[stevednp3]

Re: Noise Levels

Could you please take a look at the below images and let me know if you think the quality is ok, if they are then it will put my mind at rest and I know its down to my photography skills and not the camera

Both are taken at ISO200, but I find the one with the kids has a high level of noise even at ISO 200

http://www.picturewales.com/files/church.jpg

http://www.picturewales.com/files/P3200237.JPG

[stevednp3]

Re: Noise Levels

Oh and Rich I can see your pics now - many thanks - yes yours look fine at those levels, I think mine are on par with your levels, so its me just being picky I think

[PeterD]

Re: Noise Levels

Could you please take a look at the below images and let me know if you think the quality is ok, if they are then it will put my mind at rest and I know its down to my photography skills and not the camera

Both are taken at ISO200, but I find the one with the kids has a high level of noise even at ISO 200

http://www.picturewales.com/files/church.jpg

http://www.picturewales.com/files/P3200237.JPG

Steve,

I think the problem with the second image is down to the bright sky as a background to the subjects. Where was the sun in relation to the subjects and your camera?
Have you processed the image in an editor or is this as it came out of the camera?

Peter