OM-1 Mk 1 v1.6 firmware doesn't load custom set exposure settings

[BDennis]

The new firmware seems bugged when loading saved custom sets. The exposure settings are not getting restored with OI Share and OM Workspace.

For my C3 I set M mode 1/1250s and exposure comp -0.3. It is restored when I turn the dial, switch off etc - reset mode not hold.

I saved settings via OI Share then restored into the C2 slot which was A mode settings. The shutter got set to 1/320s and exposure comp zero. The 1/320 is default for SH2 I think.

Tried it several times from phone and Mac.

I'm sure this worked with the old firmware. I haven't updated the Mk2 camera so will do some checks with that.

Has anyone else tried this?

Bill

[IainMacD]

I mentioned in one of the other threads that the shutter speeds on my custom settings were incorrectly set to 1/250 after the 1.6 update, this used to happen with early firmware updates for the E-M1 mkii and caught me out more than once, but I hadn't experienced it with the OM-1 until now. Something else that didn't stick this time was my setting for eye detection on the viewfinder, so not all the changes are positive.

[huwnothugh]

1/320 used to be the lower limit in SH2, but my OM-1 won't go slower than 1/640 since I updated the firmware to 1.6.

[BDennis]

1/320 used to be the lower limit in SH2, but my OM-1 won't go slower than 1/640 since I updated the firmware to 1.6.

Have a look at your SH2 sequential shooting settings frame rate, if it is set to 50fps it will be restricted to 1/640s longest shutter speed. At 25fps you can go down to 1/320s. I use 25fps as life is too short to be sorting all those images out 😂

It's on page 127 of the manual:

• In ♥jSH2 and ProCap SH2 modes, the lower limit of the shutter speed is 1/640 s when [Max fps] under [Sequential Shooting Settings] is set to 50 and 1/320 s when it is set to 25.

Bill

[Box Brownie]

I have yet to update to v1.6 but in regard to, either by phone or OMWS, saving Custom Sets IIRC you can do this independently i.e. save them somewhere on the phone (renamed as desired IIRC) or OMWS......to be manually reloaded as required.

So, if either method screws up reloading them.......you have them 'backed up' as above ???

A quick question, other than the custom sets one? Apart from date & time needing to entered again, does it leave intact "my menu" listings?

Thinking out loud.....I think I will need to read the various posts/threads as an aide memoir because there have been some posts that say more than just date & time needs entering but the items missing or changed are not 100% consistent across all posters....I think

[BDennis]

I looked into this and tried reloading settings on my OM-1 Mk II firmware 1.0 and my E-M1 Mk II firmware 1.5 and found that for both of these the exposure details like shutter speed, aperture and exposure compensation are either not saved in the .SET files by OI.Share and OM Workspace or not restored to the camera. I had never noticed this!

What it means is that if you reload the .SET file into the C1/C2/C3/C4 slots whatever exposure you had already set in the slot on the camera will be what you get - so it always needs to be set in the camera. Not a big deal but a bit of a surprise.

So if I wanted my C1 slot for M mode BIF at 1/2000s and had saved C1 in a .SET file, then I experimented around with different C1 settings and changed it to 1/320s then later reload my C1 BIF .SET file it will still be 1/320s and I will need to fix it.

This is why I think for variations on the custom settings it is best to recall them in camera - so recall my C1 BIF into M mode then experiment on that setting of the dial leaving my C1 BIF slot most always in the "reset" setting.

I also found the following:

- In the OI.Share phone app when you load say your saved C1 settings .SET file it can be loaded into any of C1/C2/C3/C4 slots.

- In OM Workspace the the .SET file has to be reloaded into the C1 etc slot is was saved from (so C1 saved is only offered to load back into C1, no other choices).

Some of this stuff is a bit weird! So maybe not a bug and it is "as designed" for some reason.

At least now I have all my settings saved and backed up on my google drive in the cloud.

Bill

[BDennis]

I have yet to update to v1.6 but in regard to, either by phone or OMWS, saving Custom Sets IIRC you can do this independently i.e. save them somewhere on the phone (renamed as desired IIRC) or OMWS......to be manually reloaded as required.

So, if either method screws up reloading them.......you have them 'backed up' as above ???

A quick question, other than the custom sets one? Apart from date & time needing to entered again, does it leave intact "my menu" listings?

Thinking out loud.....I think I will need to read the various posts/threads as an aide memoir because there have been some posts that say more than just date & time needs entering but the items missing or changed are not 100% consistent across all posters....I think

You can either save everything as one .SET file or in combinations. I save everything as one file as a quick back-up and all my custom slots as individual files like this, same choices on Mac OM WS / Phone OI Share:



So for my OM-1 Mk II for custom sets I have a set of files like this to reload individually


But when you come to reload with OM WS on the Mac it only offers to restore into the same slot it was saved from, if you do it in the phone app it lets you restore to any C1-C4 slot


I can't find anything in the OM Manuals on exactly what settings are saved / restored.

Update: I just looked a the My Menus and how they are saved - if you save a .SET file including the "Latest Setting" option above it includes the My Menu items and I think all settings like A/S/M/P/B and others.

So I would just do a .SET file with only "Latest Setting" selected to cover that.


Bill

[Box Brownie]

You can either save everything as one .SET file or in combinations. I save everything as one file as a quick back-up and all my custom slots as individual files like this, same choices on Mac OM WS / Phone OI Share:



So for my OM-1 Mk II for custom sets I have a set of files like this to reload individually


But when you come to reload with OM WS on the Mac it only offers to restore into the same slot it was saved from, if you do it in the phone app it lets you restore to any C1-C4 slot


I can't find anything in the OM Manuals on exactly what settings are saved / restored.

Update: I just looked a the My Menus and how they are saved - if you save a .SET file including the "Latest Setting" option above it includes the My Menu items and I think all settings like A/S/M/P/B and others.

So I would just do a .SET file with only "Latest Setting" selected to cover that.


Bill

Many thanks for your detailed reply, much appreciated

Can I pick your brains a little more....in regard to the unique naming of each set?

I read that the Image Share phone app allows one to give each set a unique name but OMWS does not. So, as you have illustrated OMWS screenshots, have you renamed them by editing the path/file name as I often do with "save as" file names in Windows?

[BDennis]

Many thanks for your detailed reply, much appreciated

Can I pick your brains a little more....in regard to the unique naming of each set?

I read that the Image Share phone app allows one to give each set a unique name but OMWS does not. So, as you have illustrated OMWS screenshots, have you renamed them by editing the path/file name as I often do with "save as" file names in Windows?

I saved them in OM Workspace and it gives an option to name the file. Otherwise it gives a name based on the date like OM-1_20240417.set so if you save multiple times in one session it will try and overwrite the files which may not be wanted. So I rename them to indicate the custom set, PASM mode and purpose because the file is just a binary and you can’t see the setup inside it and it helps when I look at them on the Mac and want to load them from there.

Inside the file it stores some detail like the title, camera model, settings included in the file like C1,C4 etc, date and some notes you can add. The title and notes can be set in OI Share but not OM Workspace AFAIK. Workspace just puts something like “Custom Mode C4” for the title. I now realise this is a problem because I saved a load of files from Workspace but when I load into OI Share for quick use on the phone it doesn’t display much of use apart from the fixed info and the file name is lost. So I need to load each into the OI Share app and set the title as if I had say different C1 setups for birds I can’t tell the difference one loaded on the phone.

Conclusion - better to save from OI Share maybe. Also - OM could make it more consistent between OM WS and OI Share.

Hope that helps!

Bill

[Box Brownie]

Thanks once again for the insights.

Plus, for sure IMO there needs to be a consistent,& complimentary methodology whether OI Share or OMWS is used.

[BDennis]

More on this - OM Customer Support asked me to feed back if the firmware update 1.6 solved the Android 14 issue.

I reported back that the Android issue is solved did but that my custom settings did not reload as expected and sent them further details relating to the exposure settings not being saved / restored. I have searched for similar reports and discovered that Rob Trek has also walked this path https://www.mu-43.com/threads/unable...id-app.122107/

I will see what comes back from OM Digital - I reckon it will either be “we designed it this way for reasons X,Y,Z”, “It’s a bug” or perhaps embarrassed silenced. I expected saving and restoring customs settings to save everything that changed when you turn the mode dial including exposure settings. It will be mostly obvious when you completely reset the camera and restore settings from OI Share or OM WS as Rob T does…I rarely do this but firmware updates can I think.

Bill

[Bikie John]

My money is on the embarrassed silence option

[blackfox]

Updated to v6.1 last night from v1.2 … only difference I could find was it turned on selfie mode … ? And there was a bright pixel on the back panel removed with pixel mapping all other settings retained .. don’t know why different people are getting varying results …unless it’s to do with what we have input previously

[BDennis]

I got an update from OM Systems on this after sending my settings file:

Thank you for providing the requested details.

We have loaded the given settings to our master unit and, in fact, the aperture on C4 was 1/250.
After, we set the aperture in C4 to 15 seconds and saved the settings to a new file.
Changed the aperture in C4 > Set > load previously saved settings.

In conclusion: aperture, shutter speed and exposure compensation settings saved in Custom Modes do not transfer when you load the settings into the camera.

Yes, so it seems like exposure settings in custom modes are not saved when saving / restoring with OM WS and OM Share. Explains why these get changed if camera is reset during firmware updates. Same for locale and time as well I suppose.

Just one of those things...

Bill

[Box Brownie]

I got an update from OM Systems on this after sending my settings file:

Thank you for providing the requested details.

We have loaded the given settings to our master unit and, in fact, the aperture on C4 was 1/250.
After, we set the aperture in C4 to 15 seconds and saved the settings to a new file.
Changed the aperture in C4 > Set > load previously saved settings.

In conclusion: aperture, shutter speed and exposure compensation settings saved in Custom Modes do not transfer when you load the settings into the camera.

Yes, so it seems like exposure settings in custom modes are not saved when saving / restoring with OM WS and OM Share. Explains why these get changed if camera is reset during firmware updates. Same for locale and time as well I suppose.

Just one of those things...

Bill

Er! they speak of aperture but give a shutter speed?

Apart from that oddity.......if the update to v1.6 will not reload the custom sets, then a logical precaution is to manually save them (as appropriate) before the v1.6 update and then manually reload them as needed.

I have yet to update but it seems, custom sets aside, I will need to go through this (and other threads?) thread to make a list of the other non custom elements that I will need to manually enter???

Not sure if I asked this before but does the update preserve the "My Menu" allocations?

[griffljg]

Not sure if I asked this before but does the update preserve the "My Menu" allocations?

Yes. That is one thing it does preserve.

[Box Brownie]

Yes. That is one thing it does preserve.

Ah! thanks, that is a relief and one less thing to have to think about