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Old 23rd May 2019
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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

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Looks great at this viewing size. Are you able to attempt tracking AF and widen the Aperture? Or does the bird emerge from cover very suddenly? With respect to the reflector, youíll be at the mercy of the recycle times of whatever strobe you're using (assuming you donít have something continuous like and LED). Would be interesting to see how the light falloff affects the photo in that type of scenario (for environments portraits, Iíve seen that used to creative effect).
I haven't gone down the artificial lighting route - yet - I was intending to use the reflector for natural light, as the sun shines past the tree, but only hits this particular branch for 10 minutes per day... so was going to try and shine a bit back at the birds exit...

Tracking and AF simply don't cope with the speed of the things, at 60 FPS you get a bird on three frames, so I've ended up going for manual preset focussing, and hope...

I've set the pro capture up to get 25 frames per attempt and then I go through and only copy the few that are worth looking at across... I've tried reducing the numbers but the reaction time of a bird coming into or out of such confined areas simply isn't consistent...
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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

Nice, Paul!
I’d have thought you’d perhaps be OK at 1/2500 for that sort of shot - certainly worth trying that to eke out the ISO. If it’s not sharp enough, try another click faster, then another.

This is another example why I’d be very pleased with just 2/3-1 stop better signal-to-noise performance for the next 4/3 sensor. Currently the 1ii and X are OK for shooting fast stuff for most of a bright day at up to ISO3200, which is usually my quality limit, but reasonably often in the U.K. things aren’t quite that bright.
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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

That last one looks pretty impressive to me Paul. Well done
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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

Reflector has just arrived... and seems to work better than I expected!





This is my garden set up...

The reflector looks to add nearly 2EV (when the sun is out )

The chair is 5 meters away from the branch with the nest in the end of it, and the birds are not unsettled by me being there, as they are flying to the tree, having a chat then flying down to the nest, when I've been slightly closer they fly straight in and out...




And first semi-decent result! Out of 350 photos, I imported 111 and I guess there's less than 10 keepers, of which this is the best - and they're only keepers while I learn how to get the result I want!

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I think I want to move my viewpoint so I'm facing the bird more as it flies out.....
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Nice, Paul!
Iíd have thought youíd perhaps be OK at 1/2500 for that sort of shot - certainly worth trying that to eke out the ISO. If itís not sharp enough, try another click faster, then another.

This is another example why Iíd be very pleased with just 2/3-1 stop better signal-to-noise performance for the next 4/3 sensor. Currently the 1ii and X are OK for shooting fast stuff for most of a bright day at up to ISO3200, which is usually my quality limit, but reasonably often in the U.K. things arenít quite that bright.
I'm finding 1/4000th is the minimum speed, so far I've managed to get down to ISO6400, but it's a little cloudy at the moment, and due to brighten up (if you believe the forecast)

I'd like to get f8 as the depth of field helps with the birds veering off away or towards me as they fly out... but we'll see!
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That is super. Nicely done.
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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

From that last shot it looks like you've cracked it.
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From that last shot it looks like you've cracked it.
Definitely getting there! Its still a bit noisy at ISO6400 so I'm going to wait for the sun to move around a little more then have another go... Full sun on the bird with the reflector to bring up the shadows will probably give me a good shot - I hope - after all this trying!
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I'm finding 1/4000th is the minimum speed, so far I've managed to get down to ISO6400, but it's a little cloudy at the moment, and due to brighten up (if you believe the forecast)

I'd like to get f8 as the depth of field helps with the birds veering off away or towards me as they fly out... but we'll see!
Interesting.

Yes, if that's the speed you need then so be it, and I find the thing to do first is to establish the slowest shutter speed to give critically sharp results in the particular setup you're trying. Then work down aperture.

The m4/3 system works well for Procapture in typical safari conditions when it's searingly bright, but it would be so good to have a couple more clicks to play with in the UK!

I can see why manual pre-focusing is necessary for this setup, because I doubt even the best DSLR focusing systems in the business could snap critical focus on that moving target fast enough given the minimum human inbuilt 0.5s reaction delay.

Your problem here is very different from the more typical Procapture target of a bird on a stick suddenly flying off, when any system can establish AF at the beginning.
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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

Went out to try again with the blue tit nest... Only to find the woodpeckers had opened up the entrance and got in...

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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

A great shame for the blue tits, but alas, as you well know, nature is not pretty at what we think/ hope it is...………....

Well recorded anyway...………..
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