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Old 15th May 2019
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Playing with PRO capture...

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I missed the penultimate photo out...

Tried to catch the blue tits going in and out, with varying success... birds are in focus (honest) but the motion blur has made them poor photos even at 1/2000th I can't anticipate the movement and pan quickly enough to minimise it!

Just need more light and an even faster shutter speed!














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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

A fine effort Walti. I bet you had twitchy fingers at the end of that session.

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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

Walti, I spend quite a lot of time shooting BIF; I've also tried pro capture which for me doesn't work as well as relying upon my own reflexes. Over time I have learnt to recognise the signs that indicate when the bird is about to take flight. With the camera in "A" mode set at F5.6-7.1, and ISO1250 - 1620 (depending upon light) on Hi continuous, I trip the release as it launches and pan. Light is the important factor and maybe requires some experimentation.
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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

Walti nice shots.


Mark a nice BIF ( bush in frame)

I have plenty of bird shots just like this!

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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

I'm going to have another go this afternoon - when the sun moves around, and see if I can get a faster shutter speed... Had a go with a flash but that didn't work out well, so will re-try that.

Was quite surprised by the number of sequences I've got where the departing bird has simply jumped, and not spread its wings at all by the last frame... 5 frames at 60fps - hardly any time but a reasonable distance for something that small!
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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

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A fine effort Walti. I bet you had twitchy fingers at the end of that session.

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I did have several sequences of 25 shots with just the tree there!
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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

It is difficult, Walti. I don't have pro capture but I have tried with burst mode and had a similar lack of success. These things just fly too fast to freeze the action and my panning skills are useless. On the positive side you do have some frames with birds nicely centred so you are doing something right.
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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

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It is difficult, Walti. I don't have pro capture but I have tried with burst mode and had a similar lack of success. These things just fly to fast to freeze the action and my panning skills are useless. On the positive side you do have some frames with birds nicely centred so you are doing something right.
Thanks, I don't feel quite so bad now!

I'll try and crank the shutter speed up a bit, but it needs full sun, and it's clouded over now
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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

Good effort. I think 1 and 3 are the best efforts in terms of the motion blur working rather than being a hindrance.
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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

I'm still experimenting....

Just trying to work out what focusing, exposure, shutter speed etc gives the result I'm after,

So....

I wound the ISO up to 12,800
set the shutter at 1/6400
set the aperture at f8
manually pre-focussed and set the camera to hi speed pro capture...

Now while this isn't the greatest photo in the world, straight out of camera, no sharpening, exposure correction or noise reduction,... I think it demonstrates why I'm not getting the clear photo I'm after!

Are the wings demonstrating some quantum physics here? are they up or down OR BOTH?

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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

If I'm reading things rightly... With the right UHS-2 card you can do multiple pro captures, after which the buffer will flush to the card in six seconds. That amounts to a lot of photos to sort through. Neat trick though.
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If I'm reading things rightly... With the right UHS-2 card you can do multiple pro captures, after which the buffer will flush to the card in six seconds. That amounts to a lot of photos to sort through. Neat trick though.
I'm certainly not getting any delays between one set of photos and starting the next... (fastest card I could find installed at 300MB/s) It doesn't seem to matter whether it's finished writing the first set when you start the second, looks like there's a chunky buffer available (so the X should be even better!)

Edit: I've just taken a few more and the camera quite happily records the photos to the buffer and writes to the card at the same time!
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I'm certainly not getting any delays between one set of photos and starting the next... (fastest card I could find installed at 300MB/s) It doesn't seem to matter whether it's finished writing the first set when you start the second, looks like there's a chunky buffer available (so the X should be even better!)

Edit: I've just taken a few more and the camera quite happily records the photos to the buffer and writes to the card at the same time!
Crikey, itís more of a beast than I thought. Time to order my first UHS-II 300MB/s card.
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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

Well, the sun moved around for a ten minute window of decent light... and I'm starting to get closer to the photo I want to take!

This is still at
ISO12800
1/8000s
f8

Slightly over exposed (+0.3EV) as this seems to help with the grain...

So I think I can slow down to around 1/4000, can probably go slightly more open on the aperture and still get the DoF and a better ISO, so say 4 to 6 stops, which should allow me to drop to ISO3200 - 5000 to get a better quality image.

I'll keep trying!

If anyone has any "bright" ideas on how to increase the available light I'm all ears! - I have just ordered a 32" reflector set for starters....

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Re: Playing with PRO capture...

Looks great at this viewing size. Are you able to attempt tracking AF and widen the Aperture? Or does the bird emerge from cover very suddenly? With respect to the reflector, you’ll be at the mercy of the recycle times of whatever strobe you're using (assuming you don’t have something continuous like and LED). Would be interesting to see how the light falloff affects the photo in that type of scenario (for environments portraits, I’ve seen that used to creative effect).
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