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    OK. Here is one for you, it is a panel of three images showing - the original image (dull day), then after 'tweaks', as given, then the final image, as printed.

    Comments from judges in three club competitions have been varied. One judge suggested that the picture was not in focus. Marks have also ranged somewhat - from 11 to 16 out of 20.

    So, what do you think ? Should I have stopped at number 2 and printed it up, or does anyone else quite like the Photoshop watercolour filter ? Bit 'marmite' really.

    David
    Last edited by Ian; 15th December 2019, 11:56 AM.

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    Just in case someone wants a better look at the final image.

    David
    Last edited by Ian; 15th December 2019, 11:56 AM.

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    • #3
      Would you mind if I made the images you have attached larger so that there is no need to click on the thumnbnail?

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      • #4
        The original image is a bit small to tell if it's in focus or not, so as Ian says could we see a larger version. I am not keen on the watercolour filter version.
        I would be very tempted to replace the sky.
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        • #5
          Hi Ian

          I have no problems on you making the images larger, or I could re-upload bigger. I have looked at the Media bit but can find nothing on maximum image size or max file upload size so erred on the side of caution - 1024 x 768 at 72dpi, jpegs for small file size.

          No really surprised at comments on size. I reloaded the last pic (entry 2) sized to 1920 x 1080 or similar. What size could I do the triple (as max) ?

          Also, how to add images to post in large size ? I just added from gallery.

          David

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          • Ian
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            You can now upload photos without resizing down and the forum will do the resizing for you; up to 1600 pixels tall or wide using the attachments function. Once uploaded you have the option of placing that image into your post in a variety of sizes from Fullsize down to Thumbnail.

        • #6
          I have agree with the comments about the sky. I doesn't help the picture you are drawn to this area of grey.
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          • #7
            Dewi9 has permitted me to make the images he attached larger in his original posts

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            • #8
              As a judge and a resident of Bristol...

              I would have marked the watercolour effect version badly. It's a Marmite thing...

              Number 2 is better but cursed by the grey sky. I would have cropped it severely. Maybe playing with the sky using control points and structure in Nik would help.

              There are much better viewpoints a few hundred yards downstream,from where you were so give it another go sometime!
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              • #9
                I'm okay with the watercolour effect but you do need to see it at the pixel resolution size for best effect as the auto re-sizing function of the new forum can mean that if you view in a small browser window then you loose the detail that is there. I don't know how it would look printed out but would suggest that a large print size would be better. Of course this effect is not for everyone so you have to take your chances with the judges who may be looking for for technical excellence (eg pixel peeping focus) rather than artistic merit.I felt the perspective of the shot slightly dissoriented me; best solved by stretching the bottom a bit. The greyness of the sky did not match the brightness of the buildings so I would also suggest brightening the sky a bit and cropping it (as mentioned above). I also cropped the left, right, and bottom sides to focus the eyes on the buildings. I can post my doctored version if you wish.Overall a very nice shot and well managed to bring the best out of a grey day.
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                • #10
                  Thanks for the resize and comments on maximum sizes Ian. Pictures look a lot better bigger.

                  Also thanks to all so far for constructive criticism. I am now arguing with myself as to whether the picture is actually two in one, leading to confusion.

                  Should I have cropped down to the multicoloured buildings on the left, as a picture ? Or should I have used the right hand half with the blue and white apartments ? Decisions, decisions ...

                  I also thought of replacing the sky with a 'more summery blue with clouds' type, but felt that would mean more work on the water - it would have to be changed to blue-ish to match the sky.

                  Keep going and I will cogitate on suggestions and comments before trying the 'Mark 2'.

                  David

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                  • #11
                    Had a think. Reduced 'paint' effect in photoshop, changed sky and put some blue in the water. Here is the result -

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                      The changes have been nicely done and I think this is an improvement.

                  • #12
                    Well I thought it made it 100% better (nothing like blowing your own trumpet) ... well chuffed.

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                    • #13
                      Since this is LFI, a few - hopefully helpful - critiques:

                      - The lighting and sky are really doing nothing to help here. In general, landscape shots improve significantly if taken early or late in the day. The light has more character and long shadows create a better mood and texture. You really need to go back after an early alarm call!

                      - The image has too many distractions imho - the people on the jetty, the left bank of the river, the boat, and even the chop on the river. I feel that my eye is being drawn to things that are fighting against the colourful buildings rather than enhancing them. Cropping left, right, and bottom would probably help.

                      - I can't put my finger on it, but the composition doesn't quite work for me. The river line is perhaps too central? Either way, I'm not sure where to settle my eye. Maybe with the cropping suggested above it would improve.

                      - The modified version is a big improvement. It looks a little over processed, but without going back and reshooting I think you've made the best out of it as your can.

                      Hope that is helpful!
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                      • #14
                        My biggest problem is, it's NOT vertical. There's a slight tilt to right IMO.

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                          I suggested stretching the bottom to the right, but there is something that does not sit quite right.

                      • #15
                        Originally posted by Dave in Wales View Post
                        My biggest problem is, it's NOT vertical. There's a slight tilt to right IMO.
                        I'm remembering that Dave has an incredibly sharp eye for that he picked out a 0.1 degree variance in one of my pictures once... I didn't note that, but I do agree with Paul (pdk42 ) that the people and the sky do nothing for this picture and I would have probably have cloned the people out and swapped the sky if I wanted to use this for anything

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