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  • Phill D
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    Don't worry no sheep were harmed in the shooting of these images

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  • alfbranch
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    My thoughts



    If you do not want the pylons move to avoid them.

    If you wanted them but later do not like the effect bin it.


    I wouldnt bother with that much editing myself.

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  • AMc
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    They're both very warm autumnal scenes and I don't think there's anything wrong with either of them but as you asked...


    In the first shot I wouldn't clone out the pylon.
    I might be tempted to try and balance the gap to the edge between the pylon and the sun as they're already at almost the same height. I'd also consider cropping the bottom grass a bit.



    In the second shot I would consider cloning out the wires if you're skills are up to it as there is nothing visible tying them into the scene so they look a bit odd. I'm more concerned with the sheep in the middle that seems to have fallen down a hole!

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  • Phill D
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    I agree with you to a point Peter and that's why i included the pylon in an attempt to contrast the natural scene with the man made pylon. I sort of hoped the cables would tie the scene together a bit so to speak. For me it did add a bit of interest but i accept it's not the most interesting of images. Good discussion though so thanks for adding your thoughts.

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  • peterw
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    Sorry, not convinced, Its just a rather uninteresting view of nothing in particular!

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  • MJ224
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    Originally posted by peterw View Post
    It desperately needs a focal point IMHO.Otherwise what are we looking at?
    Peter
    Is the sun a focal point? The watery surface attracts the eye as well?

    Mark j

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  • peterw
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    It desperately needs a focal point IMHO.Otherwise what are we looking at?


    Peter

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  • Phill D
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    Had a look Mike and just off shot there were trees that obscured the next pylon. However moving a bit further down this was the scene. Again still including the cables but in this case I think it would benefit from removing the cables as this scene might stand up a bit better on its own.

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  • Phill D
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    Not sure how far the next pylon was Mike. I'll have a look through my other shots to see if i took one as you described.

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  • MikeOxon
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    I don't know the viewpoint but I might have tried to include the next pylon to the right, if I were trying to show the impact of the power line on the landscape. Otherwise, I might try to take the pylon and wires out but would probably decide it was too difficult

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  • Phill D
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    Looks like we are all pretty much in agreement. Basically I took the shot with the intention of trying to making use of the pylon as it was there. I'd originally identified the sunrise spot via Google and TPE but when I got there on my scouting trip most viewing points along the road included pylons or cables. There was only one at the point where the cables actually crossed the road that I could get an unobstructed shot through a hole in the undergrowth before houses got in the way. That one was the first Carsington image I posted. Having got my sunrise I thought well lets just go back and see if I could get a sunny shot to work deliberately with the pylon featuring in it, hence, this one. I was trying to get the pylon to stand out as the ugly man made bit and use the cables in particular to lead the eye across to the natural sunrise over the water. Sort of hoping that the cables would create a flow across the scene linking it all together. I also noticed the sun was just about still lighting up the dew on the grass so I tried accentuating this by boosting the contrast in LR and hence cropping to retain a significant amount of foreground grass in the darker space. Overall I was hoping that I could create a mix of the natural and man made elements that would actually work together in an image. From your comments I think it sort of worked just about. Thanks everyone for your thoughts hope you enjoyed the discussion, I did.

    Oh yes and by the way there is no way I could have deleted the Pylon and cable in PS, my processing skills are way below doing that so it was Hobson's choice really

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  • shenstone
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    I agree with the "No" unless you want to do it just to see if you can


    Regards
    Andy

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  • Bikie John
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    Dan has pretty much summed up my thoughts. I think it works well as it is, and without the pylon and wires you wouldn't really have enough left to make it anything more than a pleasant scene.

    John

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  • danellis
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    I tried posting this twice last night - gonna give it one more go:

    God no!

    In my opinion the pylon makes the scene, in fact it's probably the subject.

    The pylon bridges the ground and the sky, balancing the sub.

    I *might* be tempted to experiment with adjusting the crop of the ground itself, which forms a very large area of negative space. That's not to say that where you've cut it *isn't* the best position, or even that you haven't experimented already to settle it where you have.

    If you can perfectly edit out the pylon and the cables (beyond my Photoshop skills TBH) you may well still have a beautiful scene, but in my opinion it would be half the photograph it is with the pylon in place.

    dJE

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  • RobEW
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    Depends on your purpose of course. If you're a documentary photographer wanting to highlight the ugliness introduced to rural scenes by insensitive intrusions then leave it as it is (or even choose a viewpoint which shows more of the pylon). If you're mainly interested in the older (and more "natural") landscape then a different viewpoint might be possible. Editing out such large things seems rather like fakery to me. As a compromise, and at the risk of subverting your composition, you could consider cropping fro the left to lose the pylon and then editing out the lines.

    One of the odd things about technological intrusions on the landscape is that after a period they become accepted and even featured as part of the landscape - e.g. windmills, railway viaducts, canals etc are thought picturesque now, but modern wind turbines, pylons, motorway bridges etc are considered blots on the landscape.


    As for "natural" landscapes - most of the British landscape is to a large extent fashioned by humans.

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