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  • #76
    Re: Election Vote

    Originally posted by wornish View Post
    I see you didnt bother to look at the global comparison figures in the link I provided.
    Seems to be a profit making company specialising in mainly cosmetic surgery. The site has a distinctly American flavour to it, which make me suspicious of their agenda, particularly in the light of the recent report that the U.S. want to extend patents, thus stifling the production of generic drugs.

    Sorry, I didnt go to the Chemist in town or the one in New York to do a direct comparison.
    You didn't need to - it's on the net!

    The link is a well established source of Global data for a whole range of drugs. Perhaps they missed your local chemist latest charge for aspirin?
    The source is from a private, profit making company with their own agenda.

    "Local chemist"? Don't you have Boots in your neck of the woods?

    There will always be exceptions you can find on Google down to local profiteering, but to base your decision on one sample of one drug is typical of those that wont face facts.
    I chose aspirin because it's still the most widely used drug out there.

    Our NHS is good at somethings but in terms of administration it needs a major sort out.We pay over four times the global median price for generic drugs - how wonderful.

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    • #77
      Re: Election Vote

      Originally posted by Jim Ford View Post
      (That's funny. I just did a quick Google and it came up with "The cost for aspirin oral delayed release tablet 81 mg is around $10 for a supply of 36 tablets, depending on the pharmacy you visit.")


      Jim



      Walmart price: 100 aspirin including delivery $4.49


      https://www.walmart.com/ip/Good-Sens...-Tabs/43489858

      Jax

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      • #78
        Re: Election Vote

        According to a BBC report this morning 'The Labour Party is to re-shape its general election campaign strategy - particularly in Leave-voting areas - to try to turn around a stubborn Conservative opinion poll lead.'

        BBC Report: General election 2019: Labour to change strategy with two weeks to go.

        'So a new plan has been hatched and is about to be put in to effect. It is designed to appeal to those who voted for Brexit, and to those who have other concerns but just don't think Labour is on their side.

        In the next two weeks, if you live in a Leave area, you are likely to see a very different style of campaign.


        A lot of voters are very wary of Labour's spending plans in particular. After all, every Labour government since 1948 has bankrupted the economy, and Jeremy Corbyn seems to be hell bent on doing the same within his first term.

        If we go back to Harold Wilson's government in the late 1960's we had numerous nationalised industries pumping their profits into the economy and an 89% top rate of income tax on 'the rich'; yet Wilson still had to go to the IMF for a bail out. What could possibly have gone wrong?

        (The top rate of tax on unearned income was 135% I believe.)

        Question is, will Labour actually change its agenda, or will they just talk about changing it?
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        Naughty Nigel


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        • #79
          Re: Election Vote

          It's a shame we can't actually edit/change our votes on this thread.
          I won't be changing mine but given the revelations so far from the parties, some might want to.

          https://www.facebook.com/spoofeduk/v...7056614667735/

          What could go wrong?
          Dave

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          • #80
            Re: Election Vote

            Originally posted by wornish

            Diane Abbott has checked the maths!
            I expect she did the maths but the checking bit was where it all went ever so wrong.
            Good old Abacus Abbott.

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            • #81
              Re: Election Vote

              You might like the original Dave, with a photo of Prof. Abbott at work.


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              Naughty Nigel


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              • #82
                Re: Election Vote

                Originally posted by wornish View Post
                With all the talk about drug prices and selling the NHS off to the USA this 2019 drug price comparison data makes fascinating reading.

                https://www.medbelle.com/medicine-price-index-uk

                The bottom line :

                Comparison to world median price

                Drug Type---------UK-----------USA

                Branded----------(-)20.85%. 421.74%

                Generic-----------470.37%. 97.41%

                We pay a lot less than the USA do for branded but pay way more for generic.
                So it all depends on what mix the NHS uses.
                The body is willing but the mind is weak.

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                • #83
                  Re: Election Vote

                  Originally posted by wornish View Post
                  It's a shame we can't actually edit/change our votes on this thread.
                  I won't be changing mine but given the revelations so far from the parties, some might want to.

                  https://www.facebook.com/spoofeduk/v...7056614667735/

                  What could go wrong?
                  Some of us might want to change our vote, or we might just chose not to vote at all.

                  As time goes by ALL of the parties seem to be making themselves ever more unelectable. It worries me that one of the two main parties seems to be motivated more by jealousy and hatred of those who are better educated than actually improving the lot of its supporters. We really don't need a race to the bottom.

                  I don't know what to make of the Greens but they are the only party that makes any sense at the moment.

                  I liked the video by the way.
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                  Naughty Nigel


                  Difficult is worth doing

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                  • #84
                    Re: Election Vote

                    Lots of talk today about climate change. Seems that each party is racing to plant the most trees, and promising to make the UK carbon neutral by 2040 or even 2030.

                    The whole focus is on the UK and no one talks about the rest of the world.
                    In 2019 the UK accounts for about 1% of worldwide CO2 emissions and if we do reach zero emissions it will make diddly squat difference. The MP's might feel more virtuous but they are simply ignoring the elephant in the room.

                    https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/eac...-co2-emissions
                    Dave

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                    • #85
                      Re: Election Vote

                      Originally posted by wornish View Post
                      The whole focus is on the UK and no one talks about the rest of the world.
                      In 2019 the UK accounts for about 1% of worldwide CO2 emissions and if we do reach zero emissions it will make diddly squat difference.
                      'Whataboutery'!

                      See:

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

                      Jim

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                      • #86
                        Re: Election Vote

                        The point is that if we all bury our heads in the sand the planet will be heading for catastrophe. Somebody has to be first, and if we can demonstrate that emissions can be reduced more or less to zero then other countries should be encouraged to follow suit.

                        I have just returned from a trip to south Asia and was impressed by the amount of work being done there to reduce plastic and other pollutants. Bhutan has started to ban many plastics and India is doing a lot to raise awareness of environmental damage in many forms. Your whole focus maybe on the UK Dave but many other countries are starting to sit up and take notice, it's just unfortunate that the Trumps and Johnsons of this world are so fixated on making money they ignore the collateral damage.
                        Regards
                        Richard

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                        • #87
                          Re: Election Vote

                          Originally posted by Otto View Post
                          The point is that if we all bury our heads in the sand the planet will be heading for catastrophe. Somebody has to be first...

                          ... many other countries are starting to sit up and take notice, it's just unfortunate that the Trumps and Johnsons of this world are so fixated on making money they ignore the collateral damage.
                          Other countries have been sitting up and taking notice for a very long time. I have visited The Netherlands fairly regularly since the early 1980's, and I can tell you the Dutch were concerned about global warming and rising sea levels then.

                          We have some great innovators in this country and the best way of selling our technology is to develop and use it ourselves and to demonstrate its advantages to buyers overseas.

                          We are not really in a position to preach from the environmental pulpit though because our businesses chose to buy from the cheapest possible sources in China and the Third World ignoring the environmental costs and the environmental credentials of their suppliers. We in turn chose to buy the products knowing full well where they have come from.

                          If we didn't buy the imports they wouldn't be made in the first place and China wouldn't be building a new coal fired power station every fortnight.
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                          Naughty Nigel


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                          • #88
                            Re: Election Vote

                            Originally posted by Otto View Post
                            The point is that if we all bury our heads in the sand the planet will be heading for catastrophe. Somebody has to be first, and if we can demonstrate that emissions can be reduced more or less to zero then other countries should be encouraged to follow suit.

                            I have just returned from a trip to south Asia and was impressed by the amount of work being done there to reduce plastic and other pollutants. Bhutan has started to ban many plastics and India is doing a lot to raise awareness of environmental damage in many forms. Your whole focus maybe on the UK Dave but many other countries are starting to sit up and take notice, it's just unfortunate that the Trumps and Johnsons of this world are so fixated on making money they ignore the collateral damage.
                            I am not solely focussed on the UK thats why I did the post in the first place! All the election posturing achieves nothing in the big picture. If we can get to nearly zero by 2040 and everyone else just watches and moves the deckchairs around what have we actually achieved?

                            Putting off the hard stuff and hoping others will follow is not the answer this is one time the UN needs to actually get into gear and do something. Not just pay lipservice to the teenager from the Nordics.
                            Dave

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                            • #89
                              Re: Election Vote

                              Has anyone seen the latest skit video of Hitler in the bunker doing the rounds ?
                              David

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                              • #90
                                Re: Election Vote

                                Anyone else noticed the absence from electioneering broadcasts or news by
                                frontbenchers Emily Thornberry and Keir Starmer from the Labour side and also Jacob Rees Mogg from the Conservative side?
                                Dave

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