Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

15 frame sequence E-M1 BIF after firmware update

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • 15 frame sequence E-M1 BIF after firmware update

    I don't think I could have done this prior to yesterday's firmware update:

































    All these shots are cropped to a quarter of the original frame.

    Ian
    Founder and editor of:
    Olympus UK E-System User Group (http://e-group.uk.net)
    Four Thirds User (http://fourthirds-user.com)
    Digital Photography Now (http://dpnow.com)
    Olympus camera, lens, and accessory hire (http://e-group.uk.net/hire)

    Twitter: www.twitter.com/ian_burley
    Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/dpnow/
    Pinterest: www.pinterest.com/ianburley/
    NEW: My personal BLOG ianburley.com
    sigpic

  • #2
    Re: 15 frame sequence E-M1 BIF after firmware update

    I feel it is better after the update - there was much less losing focus completely and 10fps is a bonus. I noticed that if the first frame wasn't in focus the rest were less likely to be as well but in my example sequence it does show that it can keep focus throughout a long sequence - the gull was definitely further away at the end of the sequence. Maintaining focus even when the subject is off-centre is better too. You just need to get the first in the sequence right.

    Ian
    Founder and editor of:
    Olympus UK E-System User Group (http://e-group.uk.net)
    Four Thirds User (http://fourthirds-user.com)
    Digital Photography Now (http://dpnow.com)
    Olympus camera, lens, and accessory hire (http://e-group.uk.net/hire)

    Twitter: www.twitter.com/ian_burley
    Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/dpnow/
    Pinterest: www.pinterest.com/ianburley/
    NEW: My personal BLOG ianburley.com
    sigpic

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: 15 frame sequence E-M1 BIF after firmware update

      Big thanks for this Ian, I have updated the firmware but yet to try it out - your images clearly demonstrate what the new firmware/camera can deliver.

      Excited!!
      Ian from the Cotswolds
      http://571photography.blogspot.co.uk/

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: 15 frame sequence E-M1 BIF after firmware update

        Please don't expect a magical difference; it's better but you still need luck and skill (I had some luck ) to get consistently good results and I do feel it is important that the very first shot is in focus as I noticed that sequences where the first shot was not in focus were generally of relatively poor quality. But there is no doubt that C-AF has been noticeably improved for applications like BIF.

        Ian
        Founder and editor of:
        Olympus UK E-System User Group (http://e-group.uk.net)
        Four Thirds User (http://fourthirds-user.com)
        Digital Photography Now (http://dpnow.com)
        Olympus camera, lens, and accessory hire (http://e-group.uk.net/hire)

        Twitter: www.twitter.com/ian_burley
        Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/dpnow/
        Pinterest: www.pinterest.com/ianburley/
        NEW: My personal BLOG ianburley.com
        sigpic

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: 15 frame sequence E-M1 BIF after firmware update

          It's certainly a step in the right direction.
          John

          "A hundredth of a second here, a hundredth of a second there � even if you put them end to end, they still only add up to one, two, perhaps three seconds, snatched from eternity." ~ Robert Doisneau

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: 15 frame sequence E-M1 BIF after firmware update

            I've only been able to try it with our dogs when they actually move the way I needed them & the results certainly do look promising.
            Ross
            I fiddle with violins (when I'm not fiddling with a camera).
            Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ross-the-fiddler/
            Cameras: OM-D E-M1 & Mk II, Olympus Stylus 1, OM-D E-M5.
            Lenses: M.ZD7-14mm f2.8 PRO Lens, M.ZD12-40mm f2.8 PRO Lens, M.ZD40-150mm f2.8 PRO Lens, MC-14, MC-20, M.ZD45mm f1.8, M.ZD12-50, M.ZD60 Macro, M.ZD75-300 Mk II, MMF-3, ZD14-54 II, Sigma 150mm F2.8 APO Macro DG HSM.
            Flashes: FL36R X2, FL50R, FL50.
            Software: Capture One Pro 10 (& Olympus Viewer 3).

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: 15 frame sequence E-M1 BIF after firmware update

              Agreed, I had a quick test at lunch time today, birds all at some distance so nothing really worthy of posting but the improvement in C-AF is marked I would say.
              If they could now get the initial lock a bit quicker I would be very happy indeed
              Regards Huw


              Olympus equipment
              Capture One Pro
              My flickr

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: 15 frame sequence E-M1 BIF after firmware update

                Ian, which lens was this?
                I have noticed much quicker focusing with the 50-200.
                Stuff from Cuba
                More stuff from Cuba
                It all started here

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: 15 frame sequence E-M1 BIF after firmware update

                  Originally posted by Beagletorque View Post
                  Ian, which lens was this?
                  I have noticed much quicker focusing with the 50-200.
                  75-300mm F4.8-6.7 II
                  Regards Huw


                  Olympus equipment
                  Capture One Pro
                  My flickr

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Re: 15 frame sequence E-M1 BIF after firmware update

                    yes I would support Ian and Greytops findings the new firmware using CAF and H seq is the way to go for BIF with the EM1. I used the 50-200mmswd lens. The key thing being to get the first frame focus locked. I was getting in excess of 10 consecutive frames and feel that I can improve on that with more practice and better environment.
                    John

                    OM-D E-M1, 12-40 f2.8 Pro, Tamron 14-150mm f5.8, E5, E3, Zuiko 50-200mm SWD, Zuiko 12-60mm SWD, Zuiko ED 70-300mm f5.6, 50mmf2, Zuiko ED 9-18mm f5.6, Sigma 50-500mm f6.3, EC14, EC20, RM-1, VA-1

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Re: 15 frame sequence E-M1 BIF after firmware update

                      Originally posted by Beagletorque View Post
                      Ian, which lens was this?
                      I have noticed much quicker focusing with the 50-200.
                      Originally posted by Greytop View Post
                      75-300mm F4.8-6.7 II
                      That's correct.

                      Conditions were far from ideal as literally five minutes after I went out the front door the late afternoon sun was obscured by cloud (always happens!).

                      Some good light is promised on or off in the next day or two so I will try some Four Thirds lenses given the chance (50-200, 90-250 and 300).

                      Incidentally, I used all AF points mode and Andy Elliot recommended C-AF Lock off.

                      I'd like to get the shutter speed up to 1/2000th and ISO down to 400 if possible. Better light and a faster lens will obviously help. I also had to add brightness in post processing (from RAW) so while I had centre-weight metering mode on plus +0.7EV exposure bias, I might increase the bias.

                      Ian
                      Last edited by Ian; 26th February 2015, 09:36 AM.
                      Founder and editor of:
                      Olympus UK E-System User Group (http://e-group.uk.net)
                      Four Thirds User (http://fourthirds-user.com)
                      Digital Photography Now (http://dpnow.com)
                      Olympus camera, lens, and accessory hire (http://e-group.uk.net/hire)

                      Twitter: www.twitter.com/ian_burley
                      Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/dpnow/
                      Pinterest: www.pinterest.com/ianburley/
                      NEW: My personal BLOG ianburley.com
                      sigpic

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Re: 15 frame sequence E-M1 BIF after firmware update

                        Ian, your mention of using centre weighted metering is what I had thought to do too (not something I have really used much at all & is usually full or spot) thinking of the subject passing through different lighting environments, although Manual could work too if planned before hand.

                        I'm still interested to see how well the 50-200 SWD lens performs because that may be the lens I might get later this year if there is someone here willing to part with theirs at the right price.
                        Ross
                        I fiddle with violins (when I'm not fiddling with a camera).
                        Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ross-the-fiddler/
                        Cameras: OM-D E-M1 & Mk II, Olympus Stylus 1, OM-D E-M5.
                        Lenses: M.ZD7-14mm f2.8 PRO Lens, M.ZD12-40mm f2.8 PRO Lens, M.ZD40-150mm f2.8 PRO Lens, MC-14, MC-20, M.ZD45mm f1.8, M.ZD12-50, M.ZD60 Macro, M.ZD75-300 Mk II, MMF-3, ZD14-54 II, Sigma 150mm F2.8 APO Macro DG HSM.
                        Flashes: FL36R X2, FL50R, FL50.
                        Software: Capture One Pro 10 (& Olympus Viewer 3).

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Re: 15 frame sequence E-M1 BIF after firmware update

                          Originally posted by Ian View Post
                          Incidentally, I used all AF points mode and Andy Elliot recommended C-AF Lock off.
                          I was experimenting with C-AF yesterday afternoon and tried various AF points settings. I, too, found that All AF points worked best but sometimes the green box landed on the clouds instead of the bird, so I had to keep pressing the shutter button until it was in the right place. All AF points is no use if the bird is in front of a busy background, such as reeds or trees. Using single AF point was all right if I hit the subject first time but if I missed and 'caught' the sky instead the focusing would go to infinity and I could no longer see the bird in the viewfinder to try again. I suppose plenty of practice will help.

                          Ian could you please explain in simple terms exactly what the C-AF Lock is and how the various settings work?

                          Ron

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Re: 15 frame sequence E-M1 BIF after firmware update

                            Originally posted by Olybirder View Post
                            Ian could you please explain in simple terms exactly what the C-AF Lock is and how the various settings work?
                            I second this request as I do not really understand what the different settings do.
                            I note you quote being advised by Andy Elliot (presumably an expert at BIF with an EM-1? I don't know who he is) but Olympus themselves recommend having C-AF lock on "standard" by which I assume they mean normal as there is no "standard" setting. All rather confusing!

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Re: 15 frame sequence E-M1 BIF after firmware update

                              Originally posted by Olybirder View Post
                              I was experimenting with C-AF yesterday afternoon and tried various AF points settings. I, too, found that All AF points worked best but sometimes the green box landed on the clouds instead of the bird, so I had to keep pressing the shutter button until it was in the right place. All AF points is no use if the bird is in front of a busy background, such as reeds or trees. Using single AF point was all right if I hit the subject first time but if I missed and 'caught' the sky instead the focusing would go to infinity and I could no longer see the bird in the viewfinder to try again. I suppose plenty of practice will help.

                              Ian could you please explain in simple terms exactly what the C-AF Lock is and how the various settings work?

                              Ron
                              Originally posted by Miketoll View Post
                              I second this request as I do not really understand what the different settings do.
                              I note you quote being advised by Andy Elliot (presumably an expert at BIF with an EM-1? I don't know who he is) but Olympus themselves recommend having C-AF lock on "standard" by which I assume they mean normal as there is no "standard" setting. All rather confusing!
                              Using the Info key during Menu set up, when selecting C-AF Lock, the assisting Info given is "Adjusts the target activity level during C-AF." So from that, maybe erratic moving subjects would benefit with it being set to High, although thinking back to previous manuals (instructions) slower would be beneficial if there are objects interrupting the view so that the target point on the screen doesn't go erratic looking for the target subject.
                              Ross
                              I fiddle with violins (when I'm not fiddling with a camera).
                              Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ross-the-fiddler/
                              Cameras: OM-D E-M1 & Mk II, Olympus Stylus 1, OM-D E-M5.
                              Lenses: M.ZD7-14mm f2.8 PRO Lens, M.ZD12-40mm f2.8 PRO Lens, M.ZD40-150mm f2.8 PRO Lens, MC-14, MC-20, M.ZD45mm f1.8, M.ZD12-50, M.ZD60 Macro, M.ZD75-300 Mk II, MMF-3, ZD14-54 II, Sigma 150mm F2.8 APO Macro DG HSM.
                              Flashes: FL36R X2, FL50R, FL50.
                              Software: Capture One Pro 10 (& Olympus Viewer 3).

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X